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#1 Posted : 20 November 2006 15:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mark Eastbourne
Hi everyone

I have just had the student union in my office wishing to arrange a Christmas party for the students. Rightly or wrongly I have said the venue must supply a risk assessment (it is a pub which often has parties in a large room). However, the venue said it would not supply a risk assessment and that the students should do their own.

Any advice? Is this right? How can I ask young students to do a risk assessment? Should I do it with them? I think time is a factor and in my experience, a risk assessment normally raises issues which need addressing and it is not always possible to eliminate or control those issues immediately.

Historically, there has been little party arrangement by previous student unions, these guys are determined to make an effort and I do not want to dampen their enthusiasm.

I hope I haven't wittered on too much and any advice or help you could give me would be very much appreciated.

Regards

Mark
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#2 Posted : 20 November 2006 16:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Descarte
The pub will have on its lisence the capacity of the room to be used, giving the maximum occupancy which is calculated by number of fire exits, amount of rest rooms etc, Im sure they would be willing to give you a copy of this. This is completed with the local council and in conjunction with the fire dept

This should cover you for any "normal" party ie. dancing eating drinking etc. However any other activities which are undertaken like organised games or activities should be assessed by yourself if required.

There was some recent adviced issued for managers of companies wanting to organise Xmas parties but I feel the info there is not as relevant to yourself:

http://www.safetynews.co...06/Acas%20-%20advice.htm

Oh probably missed other stuff but have you considered smoking issues, are you in England or Scotland?
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#3 Posted : 20 November 2006 16:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve Cartwright
Why do you want a risk assessment on having a party?

Is the venue on your campus?

Are the students 18 or over?

Surely what the students do in their own time is up to them. It only becomes your problem once they are on your premises. It may sound harsh but that is a fact.

The Licencee of the premises has the duty of care. So will be responsible for carrying out all necessary risk assessments.

Steve

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#4 Posted : 20 November 2006 16:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mark Eastbourne
Many thanks for your response Descarte, I am in South of England along the Coast.

Thank you for the link, which will no doubt prove useful in the near future!

I shall ask the students to take a copy of this documentation.

Regards

Mark



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#5 Posted : 20 November 2006 16:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mark Eastbourne
Hi Steve

Thanks for your response.

I understand what you are saying.

Simply just a question, but do you think there would be any serious repercussions to the college if a student fell off a balcony or something or would liability still lie with the venue?

I think the head of the student union is worried which is why she has asked me to get involved.

Descarte has put my mind at ease with his advice, beforehand I didn't know if I should be asking for proof of electrical maintenance, first procedures, emergency evacuation procedures, checking for adequate facilities etc. I certainly did not want to rain on the student unions parade by insisting on these things when I did not need to so will stick to asking for the documentation Descarte mentioned.

Cheers

Mark
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#6 Posted : 20 November 2006 17:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve Cartwright
You can't be responsible for everything they do away from the college.
If it was an official event organised by the college then I would check the capacity of the venue and limit the numbers to suite.
As for someone falling off a balcony or down stairs etc again the owner/landlord owes the duty of care.

Steve
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