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#1 Posted : 22 November 2006 16:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By ddraigice
Article found while trawling the net recently:

http://www.newswales.co....ction=Health&F=1&id=9833

It got me thinking that this sort of thing is quite common - less common to actually have an accident perhaps.

Can h&s professionals or organisations including HSE/LA or even insurance companies ever hope to have an impact on these people?(no pun intended)
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#2 Posted : 22 November 2006 16:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Bannister
It's a bit like the old joke of how do you eat an elephant? A bite at a time.

Whilst this is a tragic accident and perhaps a flippant answer is in poor taste, I firmly believe that we can all make a difference, every day, by doing our own little bit. If we give up then the killers out there will multiply.

Here endeth the lesson.
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#3 Posted : 23 November 2006 10:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By Salus
we all ready know how some companies regard H & S, but when are employees going to stop and think,
"that looks dangerous I'm not going to do that"

it's not the directors or senior management that get hurt it is virtually all trade employees.



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#4 Posted : 23 November 2006 13:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert Thomson
Advice please - contractor will be working on our flat roof next week - 300m long x 150m wide, he will be installing pipework down the centre.

As this is approx. 150m from the edge (150m edges are protected by other structure)does he need edge protection?

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#5 Posted : 23 November 2006 14:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Salus
Robert, as they are contractors your company still has a duty to look after them when on site.
This means you monitoring the work and checking they are carrying out the work the way that you and the contractor approved before work commences.

They should supply a risk assessment that ID's the job / the dangers when carrying out the work / who can be harmed by those dangers / what measures they are going to put into place to reduce those dangers as far as is reasonably practicable (a balance between the cost of providing prevention against the injuries that you / they can foresee may happen).
check their insurance, ensure the operatives carrying out the works are inducted for your site,ensure the operatives are familiar with the RA and monitor the work to ensure they are doing the work as they said in the RA..

If you feel that at any time they are working dangerously, could harm themselves or others then stop them from working and speak to their supervisor / management

I am assuming you and the contractor know about the work at height hierarchy

HTH

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#6 Posted : 23 November 2006 15:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By ddraigice
Short answer to the question is - YES!

Even for short duration jobs the risk of falling can never be seen to be low - its always reasonably practicable to use edge protection (or some sort of fall protection - see the hierarchy) when you think of the potential consequences. Which is death.

A recent thread had a link to a news report where a large DIY comnpany were fined due to the actions of others on their roof - with their knowledge.

Here it is:
http://www.gnn.gov.uk/co...NavigatedFromSearch=True
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