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#1 Posted : 23 November 2006 09:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Nigel We have in our warehouses very narrow aisle trucks and some have rope escape sets fitted. We are having problems finding trainers willing to train staff (and then only at ground level)and also exactly what the legal position is (a certain supplier suggested as they were an optional extra and that we could remove them). The use of the ropes would only be in a double jeopardy situation - fire alarm and truck electric failure with operator in mid air - however the possibility is there. Can anybody advise what they do or suggest where we can get ideas on best practice which is where we want to be - if it is training then we will go down this route although jumping off a truck at 10 metres into the "thin air" is not for the feint hearted. many thanks in advance
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#2 Posted : 23 November 2006 09:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Shillabeer Not an expert but I remember the steel industry using escape harnesses for crane drivers. The cranes were gantry cranes working in steel warehouses etc, Hope it helps. Bob.
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#3 Posted : 23 November 2006 10:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andy Brazier Ground level training may be appropriate. If the likelihood of a real event is very low, the risk of training could be higher. Since Piper Alpha offshore have installed various devices for getting off of platforms. One I know of is the Donut. It is meant to be a very simple (fool-proof or is that fall-proof) to use abseil-type device. I don't know if anyone has ever used one in anger.
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#4 Posted : 23 November 2006 10:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By DP Nigel, Ground level training is OK. The reluctance for high level training may be due to a fatality involving an instructor. This occurred during some training in a Distribution Centre in Yorkshire a couple of years ago.
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#5 Posted : 23 November 2006 10:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Oliver I saw high level training being carried out by "Hewden" once, it may be worthwhile contacting their training dept for further info.
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#6 Posted : 23 November 2006 13:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By JEB Try BT Rolatruc http://www.bt-forklifts.com/en/Services/index.htm John
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#7 Posted : 23 November 2006 17:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By David AB Thomas The following should help: http://www.hse.gov.uk/LAU/lacs/20-3.htm http://www.itssar.org.uk/news.html
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#8 Posted : 24 November 2006 13:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Knagg http://www.heightec.com/...ht-training/general.html You will find these guys very knowledgable and helpful
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#9 Posted : 24 November 2006 14:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richard Hinckley Nigel - If you would like to give me a call or email me richard@totalaccess.co.uk I will discuss with you fully the requirements of Rope Evacuation from VNA Trucks and the options available for suitable equipment and training, also if you let me have your email address I can send you the HSE Operational Circular on this very subject. Richard
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#10 Posted : 24 November 2006 15:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Knagg Richard at Total Access is very helpful too! Sorry Richard meant to post your contacts as well!!! Regards Chris Knagg
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#11 Posted : 24 November 2006 15:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richard Hinckley No Problem Chris - Hope that you are keeping well and its not too wet in Manchester today...
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#12 Posted : 24 November 2006 16:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Nigel Many thanks for all the above contributions I shall send them on to our warehouse so that we can get thing moving. thanks again Nigel
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