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#1 Posted : 23 November 2006 14:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sam Talbot
Can anyone advise please is WRLD (or RSI) reportable under RIDDOR?

All that I can find is reference to specific conditions in the guidance.

I don't anticipate absence to be greater than 1 week, so will only be self certified, and expect a generic illness to be quoted.

Thanks,
Sam.
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#2 Posted : 23 November 2006 14:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alan Hoskins
Sam,

It has to be diagnosed by an OH doctor before it's reportable, I believe.

Alan
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#3 Posted : 23 November 2006 15:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Rachel West
Hi,

The individual also needs to have taken time off from work due to the condition to warrant a RIDDOR report.
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#4 Posted : 23 November 2006 16:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Edward Shyer
RSI is not reportable? but certain WRULDs such as carpel tunnel syndrome are and these are listed under RIDDOR.

If a GP has identified the exact disorder and it is a listed disease them you will need to report it.

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Ted
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#5 Posted : 24 November 2006 10:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Dickson
If the diagnosis is a reportable disease under RIDDOR, then the path is obvious.

If there is no formal diagnosis, i.e. the individual is self certified for the absence, you need to rely on what the individual has said about the absence. If he/she claims the absence is work related it may be unwise not to report it. Do not be discouraged from making the report. The HSE will not descend on you for an isolated RIDDOR report.

You should also consider a private consultation to come to a formal diagnosis. This has benefit for the individual’s continuing good health, your risk control strategies, and any future litigation on the matter.
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#6 Posted : 24 November 2006 10:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter
Ken

Don't make work for yourself; the Regs are clear. Occupational diseases are only reportable after diagnosis by a registered GP.

Paul
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#7 Posted : 24 November 2006 11:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Dickson
Correct Paul. I was referring to self certification stating work as the cause, and being over three days, but forgot to put the over three day bit in .

Sorry chaps!
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#8 Posted : 24 November 2006 11:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By J Knight
Carpal tunnel is reportable in cases where it is caused by vibrating tools. 'Cramp' of the forearm or hand is reportable where it is caused by repetitive movement. And yes, a diagnosis by a medical practitioner is needed, but it doesn't have to be an occy health specialist.

I'd say it's not RSI in general which is reportable, but RSI leading to specified symptoms, identifiable as cramp, and it has to be chronic cramp,

John
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#9 Posted : 24 November 2006 11:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By J Knight
PS RSI wouldn't be an over three day as it isn't an injury caused by an incident, but a disease or condition,

John
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#10 Posted : 24 November 2006 11:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By P.R
Hi Folks

L73 Quotes:
"Traumatic inflammation of the tendons of the hand or forearm or the tendon sheaths."
Therefore, if this applies, it would be reportable".

Peter

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#11 Posted : 24 November 2006 11:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By J Knight
Hi Peter,

Missed that one,

John
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#12 Posted : 24 November 2006 14:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By waiks
I didn't think it was reportable unless it's been diagnosed by a GP or Occ Health as being work related.

I have a case now where someone needs surgery to their elbow - this will mean a recovery period of a couple of weeks at least. The person has expressed the view that it may be attributable to working with DSE therefore it will be referred even though I'm more inclined to think that this is more likely to be related to their leisure activities, having had a chat with him.
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#13 Posted : 24 November 2006 15:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By P.R
Hi Waiks

Absolutely correct in that the disease must be identified by a Doctor as work-related, but notification must take place as soon as you are made aware of this.

Hope this clarifies things

Peter
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#14 Posted : 24 November 2006 16:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By waiks
Peter,

Yes but can GP's diagnose if it is likely to be work-related?

My assessment of the case was that it was unlikely to be work related due to the nature of the condition, the workload and work patterns and the leisure activity mentioned.

I have referred to the OH but if it is reportable it's going to be some time past the 10 day mark because the process is not so quick for illnesses as it would be if it was an accident.
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#15 Posted : 24 November 2006 16:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By P.R
Hi
Has a Doctor or Occy Health diagnosed it as being work related? If not, my understanding is that it will not be reportable until such time as it has been "officially diagnosed", therefore the current 10 day rule does not apply.
If I am incorrect, I am sure someone will call me to task ;-)

Peter
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#16 Posted : 24 November 2006 16:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By P.R
Sorry, Didn't answer the question.
An OC would be better placed, taking in to cosideration the type of work the person does compared to his/her work, but a GP could make a reasonable diagnosis based on the same. (I think).
Regards

Peter
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#17 Posted : 27 November 2006 08:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sam Talbot
Thanks for all of the responses.

To update on the situation, this individual returned to work the following morning, claiming to be fully fit.

We have now insisted that he sees his GP for (written) confirmation of his fitness to work.

Again, thanks one and all for restoring my faith in the forum after some of the recent postings!

Sam.
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