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Posted By Crim
Not sure I agree with it all but Santa should definately be CRB checked!
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Posted By RP
Is this really Elf and Safety?????
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Posted By Pete48
CRB?
Cheery Red Bloke?
I agree this is nothing to do with "elf and santie" (speshully for Merv that one).
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Posted By Crim
Wrong - this has everything to do with health and safety.
The letter of the law as it stands at present does require all that the news item states. It's the law that should be questioned!
With regard to Santa who will probably have children sitting on his knee - well those of us with young children need to know our kids are safe. I would think Santa himself would also need assurance that he will not be sued for touching any kids in any wrong places?
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Posted By Pete48
OK with my serious morning hat on, it has nothing to do with health and safety and everything to do with poor communication. The guy organising the party obviously didn't get the message, the contents of which may give useful guidance. The person giving the advice therefore did not succeed, I suspect due to the method and tone of the guidance and the perception of officialdom that exists. Indeed the organiser says he will just go somewhere on private land and take all those horrible risks anyway, so that has sorted any H&S issues then!
Do I really need to be CRB checked to play Santa with my neighbours kids whom I see and interact with almost every day of their lives? Do I really need to always compile a formal, written safety plan for such an event?
I sincerely hope not.
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Posted By J Knight
Partly 'elf'n'safety n partly food safety act 1990. Sadly this is all probably correct, take it from me, we run a lot of events,
John
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Posted By Darren J Fraser
Please excuse my ignorance, but from the report no-one is employed, therefore do not see where h&s comes into it.
Who is going to pay for the CRB check?
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Posted By Jeffrey Watt
What better way to discourage an event off your property.
"Risk assessments and Insurance cover please" is a far more politic rejection than "No".
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Posted By J Knight
Hi Darren,
True, but the council will see themselves as the employer responsible for the premises and what goes on in it,
John
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Posted By Ken Taylor
Any events to be held on local council property by others will require permission in the form of a contract in addition to any licence required for the activity and these will have conditions attached to seek to ensure that the event takes place safely and legally.
I spent quite a bit of my working time for many years applying such requirements to events, advising organisers how to comply and even attending the events in an enforcement role - particularly when held in the open air. Where the public are invited (and particularly children) you cannot afford to allow a laissez-faire approach and hope for the best - because you won't get it.
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Posted By Tabs
Headlines:
"Boy, 10, dies of nut allergy reaction at Christmas Event"
"Santa Was Registered Sex Offender, No-one Checked"
Who amongst us cannot believe the possibility of these two headlines?
Several ten year olds will probably attend the event, and at that age may not realise that *some* mince pies contain nuts (because the ones they have at home never have).
Apologies to Santas everywhere - but personally I would never have worried about priests a few years ago.
I hope that the York County Show has considerably better safety arrangements than a simple notice on the table about pie contents, and a background check of a bloke having close contact with children.
It was a communication problem and the Council really should have thought about providing a "How To" pack complete with templates and a little helpful support. This cannot be the first time someone wants to hold a simple event!
When I ask for a risk assessment off someone, I offer help, guidance, templates, and feedback. Not hard.
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Posted By Mark Eastbourne
I think Tabs has nailed it.
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