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#1 Posted : 11 December 2006 09:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By The toecap I just did the construction cert' on Friday and one of the questions made reference to HSG 65 , Electricity at work, Safe working practices. Can you spot the mistake?. Yes it should read HSG 85. Do i get points for pointing this out? Probably not. I new HSG 65 was the effective management of safety. Why dont Nebosh read the questions first and ask the question that they intend and not what they would like.
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#2 Posted : 11 December 2006 09:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alan Haynes Their response would surely be "Ve ask der qvestions!'
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#3 Posted : 11 December 2006 09:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jimmy R Alan, As A person of German heritage I was wondering why suggesting Nebosh would answer with a German twang would make any difference...so why suggest it.
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#4 Posted : 11 December 2006 15:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By The toecap How do you know it's meant to be German
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#5 Posted : 11 December 2006 15:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By GSP Can Mr Political Correctness please step off the soap box Thankyou
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#6 Posted : 11 December 2006 15:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By IOSH Moderator Hi all Don't forget that humour is often at the expense of someone, and can easily offend, particularly in an international forum. Please be careful and considerate of others! As for the exam paper - a simple typographical error I should think. Proof reading is very difficult - you tend to read what you think something should say rather than what it actually says. Jane Forum Moderator
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#7 Posted : 11 December 2006 19:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By David S Burt Are you sure is was a mistake perhaps it should have been HSG65? Just a thought.
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#8 Posted : 11 December 2006 19:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By mark limon Im English of Irish catholic,french protestant and asian descent(Im not kidding a proper mongrel)so you will have to be careful with your comments to me,or begorrah ,sacre bleu I might get offended :-),Mark
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#9 Posted : 11 December 2006 19:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter Haughey I did the exam on Friday as well - definitely said HSG65 - was definitely wrong. Do you think we can all be kind and forgive them the mistake? Then, if there's any justice, they might be as tolerant of my mistakes on the exam....
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#10 Posted : 11 December 2006 20:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By ITK CMIOSH Would NEBOSH give you marks if they wanted HSG65 and you put HSG85....course they would...
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#11 Posted : 12 December 2006 13:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stephen D. Clarke Shouldn't it have been HSG 107 for maintenance of portable electrical equipment.
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#12 Posted : 12 December 2006 13:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lilian McCartney In thier NEBOSH defence, sometimes when you have written something you're too close to it and things can go past without noticing. When I mark papers I look for more than doc numbers and good spelling/grammar. I remember (but only just, cos it was a very long time ago) that i oculdn't remember the name of the case law I was using in my answer and put a few names down - just to be sure. I did get the details of the case correct, though. I did pass the law module of the diploma so couldn't have been penalised that much. P.S. I'm much worse with names and dates now!
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#13 Posted : 12 December 2006 16:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Edward Shyer Hi Lilian, Just a quick query to your response. Could you please tell me if Spelling and Grammar are taken into account within the marking scheme for NEBOSH exams at all levels. Regards Ted
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#14 Posted : 12 December 2006 16:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Teresa Budworth Reply from NEBOSH I can confirm that imaginative spelling and grammer are not a barrier to awarding marks. We are sorry about the error on the paper. As was previously suggested, it was a typo not picked up, because you tend to see what you believe to be there... Gosh, I can feel a question about "perception" coming to me.
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#15 Posted : 13 December 2006 08:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By The toecap I answered the question begining with, 'I believe that HSG 65 isnot the safe use of portable electrical euipment'. Will i get extra marks for this or classed as a smart alec. and get marked down
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#16 Posted : 13 December 2006 09:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lilian McCartney As Teresa says spelling and grammar doesn't get good or bad marks. Very bad handwriting is a problem but I must say I always managed to eventually read them and didn't mark down for that (I tried to remember what it is like doing exams) For NEBOSH you used to get (and probably is the same now) a marking schedule and what gets marks on/off. The most difficult thing I found was when I knew what they were meaning but that wasn't what they had written and couldn't give marks for it.
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#17 Posted : 13 December 2006 10:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By Teresa Budworth As Lilian says, examiners work to a marking scheme that is produced at the same time as the question paper and is then discussed and revised by the examiners after they have marked a sample of scripts (those scripts are then re-marked to the revised or "standardised" marking scheme.) The purpose of this process is to ensure that any information included in answers which is reasonable in response to the question gets credit. We never have negative marking - that is we never deduct marks for putting wrong information, (or being a smart alex!) but only award marks where the answer is correct. Sometimes as Lilian says, the candidate may well know the answer, but hasn't put down enough detail to get all of the marks and that is frustrating because you can't mark what isn't there. Good luck with your results
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#18 Posted : 14 December 2006 00:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Sparrow Well we must be sad discussing this! However, just to say that proof readers actually read backwards (yup! start at the end and work to the front) as a way of avoiding the "what we expect to see" problem as well as reading it the normal way. Hmmm................. maybe a NEBOSH hidden look at "competence"? Keep it light or you'll all sound like H&S prctitioners LOL
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