Posted By Pierre de Carteret Required to provide training to some LGV drivers on deploying the cones they carry as part of their vehicle kits. Has anybody got any training material that's based on any evidence / experience that they would be prepared to provide FOC? Tried the Highways Agency but (as yet) they've not replied to my request for information. Grateful for anybodies thoughts / recommendations. Regards, Pierre

Posted By Robert K Lewis Pierre The training you are talking about is a mandatory requirement and not one that you can simply do in house - it is covered by the New Road and Streetworks Act. Can I suggest you contact HB Training on 01246 410111, ask for Dave Hammond or John Bamford and explain your requirements I am sure they can help you on this. Bob

Posted By Robert K Lewis Paul The problem is that NRSWA is concerned with work on the public highway not simply the opening of roads, thus even deliveries are technically covered. One of the primary objective is to ensure that such as signing and guarding are undertaken in a consistent and understandable manner so that drivers on the road and pedestrians have adequate and clear warning. My advice to go to a specialist will allow a formalised course to be developed which gives the drivers of these vehicles a competence in the task. There has recently been a prosecution against a breakdown company concerning the manner in which they deal with their work. I admit a simple breakdown does not need all the bells and whistles but it does need to comply sfrp. Bob

Posted By Robert K Lewis Dave You are quite right - they subcontract it to HB Training most of the time!!!!!!!!:-) Bob

Posted By RP Just to put into perspective... The New Roads and Streetworks Act Part III does not cover the work described in the origional posting and it is wrong to infer that it does. Too any employers are dupped into this and carrying out unnecessary training and accreditation. Delivery drivers are not covered under this Act. It is aimed at Utility Companies and their contractors executing works on the highway, not delivering or unloading. Even the Highways Act is not intended to be used in the context of the original post, if I read it correctly. Questions to ask are 1. why are they required as part of a vehicle kit? 2. why have they to deploy such items, for what reason? 3. Who are they working/delivering to or for? 4. is there any history or other information from the original post? With this information a more formal answer may be provided that gives accurate and clear guidance.

Posted By Pat Hannaway Hi Pierre, the RAC used to have a combined training pack and video called "Life on the edge: 1 and 2". It dealt with vehicle breakdowns and recovery. They recommended as a minimum, 4 cones in a taper, about 45 from outer edge of rear of vehicle, back toward the kerb. They also recommended a portable "keep right" sign to be placed at the start of the cones, adjacent to kerb. I don't know if they still sell this package, but it was VERY useful (it used to be sold as a self training pack (2000 - 2002). As other have stated, the Streetworks and Roadworks booklet is not really applicable. Regards PatH

Posted By Merv Newman Pierre, while all of the advice above is good, and I do not know the training, one motorway patroller gave me some very good advice : When setting out the cones, walk backwards. That way you can see what is coming at you. Oh, and never get yourself in a situation where you have to run. Merv

Posted By Martin Gray Pierre Try the Life On The Edge videos they cover many areas and there are 6 of them produced by the Institute of Vehicle Recovery and can be obtained from them. Life on the Edge 1 - Safe Roadside Working Life on the Edge 2 - Safe Roadside Recovery Life on the Edge 3 - Safe Heavy Recovery Life on the Edge 4 - Communications Life on the Edge 5 - Defensive Driving Life on the Edge 6 - Roadside Technicians It's Your Call 1,, and 3 are on one video tape. Martin