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#1 Posted : 19 December 2006 08:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By B. Orbany I am in a new H&S position within a paint manufactoring company. I am discovering that there is a lack of Risk Assessessments. I am not knowledgable enough yet on paint and associalted chemicals and wonder if there is anyone out there who has any H&S information specific to Paint which would help me in completing RA and ensuring the people are safe? I know this is a bit broad - but also feel we need to undertake an audit of the factory - so also wonder if there's anyone out there who has a factory audit template (or similar)? Thanks you in advance to any kind soul who can help.
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#2 Posted : 19 December 2006 09:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian G Hutchings Hi You should have or be able to get the Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS) for the paints. You can then do the COSHH assessments based on these. I would split the location into zones and do some general risk assessments (i.e. slips & trips, access/egress, welfare etc.) and then go through each production area/line and do task/process based assessments. If you are new to this and feel that you do not have the necessary experience I would recommend you get help. Remember the key hazards that may exist such as fire, chemical exposure, handling, mixing, spraying (if you do this), materials handling, transport, contractors etc. It is also worth having a trawl through the HSE website as you can get example risk assessments and further industry specific information. If you really feel out of your depth tell someone and get help; even if it is just to get the process started. Good luck Ian
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#3 Posted : 19 December 2006 12:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By B. Orbany Thanks Ian for your response and advice - gives me a good starting point.
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#4 Posted : 19 December 2006 13:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Donaldson Its many years since I was involved with paint manufacturing but there used to be a trade association and they published a range of good practice notes. Its also the processes you need to look at, ball mills, dispersers and solvent dispensers can easily generate static electricity. DSERA will of course need to be addressed. You may also find the Lead at Work Regulations will come into play if you are using lead chromate pigments. I suspect you have some midnight reading ahead of you.
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#5 Posted : 19 December 2006 13:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alexander Falconer Would also suggest talking to those involved in the process Very often these will be very experienced personnel, and very knowledgable in what they do. Use the lessons learned from your H&S training (if any) with regards to Risk Assessments, and encompass the operatives knowledge and expertise - you will then get the basis of a good starting point. From there, look at specific risk assessments, ie COSHH (contact suppliers/manufacturers of paints, review MSDS's etc), Machinery (your facilities/maintenance dept may be a good source of info, with technical files relating to paint lines, paint booths, fume extractors, etc). Your local trading standards officer will also be a good point of contact (especially if you store solvents/solvent based substances in large quantities - requires petroleum licence). In addition, also contact occupational health providers in relation to employees who handle or use such paints (especially if they are powder based, containing tgic's, some are actually carcinogenic too) - you may have an obligation to provide medicals I could go on and on However would suggest you get your hands on copies of HSE publications relating to the paint industry ie EIS 15, EIS 32, EIS 40, are some that spring to mind. Dont forget to also look at some of the common processes that relate to the preparation of products prior to painting ie solvent degreasing, surface cleaning with Trike (Trichloroethylene), and not forgetting the storage of the paints/flammable liquids/substances themselves Alex
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#6 Posted : 19 December 2006 18:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By B. Orbany Thanks everyone for these responses. I have a lot of work to do!
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#7 Posted : 19 December 2006 18:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andy Brazier My advice would be to not try and do too much too quickly. If you do you are in danger of churning out reams of paperwork that no will ever read, and in a few months or years time you will look back and realise it is either wrong or not totally appropriate. The problem with doing an audit of the whole factory is that you are likely to find many issues, but it may not focus on the areas of real concern. I'd suggest start looking at accident and incident reports to identify any trends and talk to the staff to find out there concerns. You may be able to do a relatively small amount of work that addresses the greatest risks (Pareto principle 20% of work covers 80% of risks). Over time you can obviously do more. But by going at it steady you will be able to build on good foundations. If anyone is worried about HSE or local authority causing problems about gaps, they are usually very happy if they see that you recognise the gaps and have a realistic plan. Good luck.
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#8 Posted : 20 December 2006 14:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Lewis Hi Following Andys' comment I would agree wholeheartedly with his comment about the HSE. They have enough to do keeping the bad companies in line. If you demonstrate that you are addressing issues and have a plan, they are happy to go off and bust somebody who isn't. John
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#9 Posted : 28 December 2006 22:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mike Nixon I have sent you a separate e-mail indicating the need for competent advice that I believe I can offer. My experience with paint, ink & printing safety (15 years) and as a surface coatings chemist for over 20 years lets me look at problems from a practical point of view. HSE will not ignore a company handling hazardous materials even if they are attempting to address the matter. COSHH, DSEAR etc. have been around for some time and the revised Fire regs. will play an important role in such a company. Yes you need to take things in stages but you also need to have an overall picture of where you are not compliant so that you can then tackle these in order of priority.
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