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Posted By Mark Atkinson
Morning All
Have any of you introduced controls on LGV drivers using portable gas stoves etc for cooking in their cabs when out on the road?
If so how have you enforced it and was there resistance from the drivers.
Are there any regulations relating to the practice.
Your help would be appreciated
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Posted By Merv Newman
Some of the bigger, more modern trucks come with micro-waves as optional equipment (Renault Magnum ?)
However I would really hate the idea of someone cooking on a gas ring in a cab.
I once had an hotel room in Paris which had a brown scorch mark on the carpet. "previous guests doing lunch" was the explanation.
Merv
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Posted By Dave Wilson
I find this amazing that this is allowed to happen the implications could be dire!
I assume that this is not HGV long distance stuff as you mention LGVs
Is this because they do not get an allowance for food / do get an allowance but then cook their own?
Give them an allowance and only paid on reciept for food.
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Posted By Alan Nicholls
This practice is by no means new. I used a self contained camping cooker the type with grill and splash back, nice metal container, attached with a bracket so it could not be moved when in place. The gas cylinder was mounted outside to the rear of the cab.
In my experience I can only remember 2 instances of vehicles going up in smoke that started in the cab, 1 was a cig that refused to go out of the window. The second was due to an electrical element for heating water in cups, driver forgot he had inserted it ,was unloading when the cab caught fire.
Not all lorry drivers use the motorway network!
There are fewer layby stopping places and Cafes.
If your drivers are doing long hauls with nights away or even weeks away.With sleeper cabs..
1 Do they know where they will be at any time of the day or night,(I doubt it,)
2 Do they know when or where they will be parking up or eating their next meal.
If you can answer yes to these questions then stop the use of gas stoves.
If not then find a reasonable solution with your drivers, there are safe ways to cook and make hot drinks. (If they are using day cabs stop them)
Try not to upset them too much a 40+ ton artic can hurt.
Regards Alan N
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Posted By Barry Cooper
An incident occurred several years back at a paper mill, where a HGV driver had a calor gas bottle and ring in his cab. The hose was attached by a jubilee clip, and was leaking. He didn't notice, and lit a cigarette. Boom!
Suffered severe burns to hands, face and chest. He was lucky
Barry
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Posted By Brett Day
According to Calor Gas, jubilee clip type fastners have been banned on thier equipment for quite some time, only the 'crimp' style fasteners should be used.
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Posted By Taff
Hi , I have personal experience of a tragedy involving cooking in a HGV cab. In a previous life I had the misfortune of discovering a lorry driver who had died in his cab due to a build up of carbon monoxide (later tests did find that he had also been drinking) but I would urge you to think very carefully before allowing this practice to continue.
Taff
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Posted By garyh
In a previous life I was a Dangerous Goods Safety Advisor. From memory some Police forces when doing routine "spot checks" on vehicles carrying DGs, would not allow them back on the road if carrying Calor gas cooking equipment or similar. (For carriage of DGs there is a prescribed list of what Safety ? Equipment ? PPE etc has to be carried.
As DGSA of our fleet, I advised that such things were not carried. Some drivers were also carrying and using blow torches for use on fittings (molten materials which could "set" in the threads)!!
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