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Posted By mancman
A manager wants to use the fire fighting lift in our building for day to day stuff and I have said that it should not used for this and must be available for use in the event of a fire, He has asked it this is a legal requirement ? My Question is - is it a legal requirement (and if so what legislation) or just best practice that these lifts are not uses for day to day use????
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Posted By Mark Eden
A fire fighting lift is one that can be used by the fire service in the event of a fire to transport equipment and personnel up to an incident. There is no requirement or legislation to say it can not be used as a normal lift.
It still needs to be tested and maintained and checked at the required periods.
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Posted By anon1234
I agree with Mark on this one
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Posted By MAK
You could try, looking at the BS 5588-5:2004 Fire Precautions in the deisng, construciton and use of buildings. Access and faciltiies for fire fighting. thats if you can obtain a copy which appears to be quite expensive.
Otherwise trying Building Control department at your local authority
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Posted By Mark Eden
Mancman
Just another point - if you have carried out a fire risk assessment and deemed that this lift must be made available and ready 24/7 for the use of the fire service then you can explain to the manager that this is a necessity that helps you meet your legal requirements of the Regulatory Reform (Fire Safety ) Act.
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Posted By David A Cooper
BS5588 part 5 is about to be withdrawn, you need EN81 part 72.
Dave
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Posted By shaun mckeever
Firefighting lifts can be used as a normal lift. It can also be used as part of the evacuation strategy for disabled occupants.
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Posted By TBC
Agree with all - the lift should be used normally. It is only unique because of the added fire protection built around for use in a fire situation.
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Posted By Pugwash
Both fire fighting lifts and evacuation lifts can be used as passenger lifts in the normal day to day operation of a building but it not a good idea for them to be used as goods lifts. In an emergency you do not want the lift car to be full of goods which are going to take time to move out of the car before it can be used for evacuation or fire fighting purposes. Both BS5588-8 and EN81-72 are clear on this.
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Posted By shaun mckeever
Question for David Cooper
David I have looked at your website so I guess you probably know more about firefighting lifts than I do. I am interested in your comment that BS5588-5 is about to be withdrawn. I had assumed that EN81-72 was just about controls and signals for firefighting lifts and that 5588-5 was about the protection and provision of firefighting lifts. Will the new EN81-72 cover the provision and protection of firefighting lifts/shafts?
Thanks
Shaun
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Posted By David A Cooper
My understanding is that the information in BS5588-5 has now been integrated into the "new" Building Regulations. ie siting, distance from entrance, FSAL etc etc....
Do be careful as EN81-72 and BS5588-5 contradict each other in places. If you want I am happy to do something along the lines of the guide to statutory isnpections that I made available a couple of weeks ago but it will take me a few days to put together.
Dave
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Posted By shaun mckeever
Yes thanks David I would appreciate that if it is OK.
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