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Posted By martin gray1
Hi all
Would you give me an idea of what sort of payment if any you give your first aiders. At present there is no financial reward and we are finding that people are not wanting to renew their certificates.
I don't think it is just because there is no payment involved, but it is not helping the situation.
Thanks for any help.
MG
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Posted By Bob Thompson CMIOSH
ours get a small honorarium £100 per year or so
but we do have several hundred full certificated ones
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Posted By Scott Fisher
We give ours £10 per month.
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Posted By CRN Baker
Our first aiders are paid £20 a month.
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Posted By Max Bancroft
Ours get £23.75 per month. We're in the public sector (Higher Education) where I think there is a tradition of paying for what are seen as add-ons to the normal job.
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Posted By Salus
Hi Martin,
assess whether you need them for the work being carried out, the environment you are in and the number of employees?
if yours is an office situation I would provide an appointed person, what would a fully qualified first aider do anyway that an ordinary person could not do.
if a person is badly hurt an ambulance is always called, other than that wounds are cleaned,a plaster applied.
HTH, just my thoughts.
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Posted By Alan Haynes
When I was a 'First Aider', many moons ago, I used to get an extra days leave. After 3 years of retakes it went up to 2 days
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Posted By Sharon
Ours get £300 a year.
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Posted By Derek Singleton
I'm in a local authority where we get £15.75 per month. However we do employ a number of seasonal First Aiders for 5-6 months each year, as they may not return the following year there is no extra pay, but they do have a three year qualification to take with them.
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Posted By Zyggy Turek
Martin,
I work for a Local Authority & last year I carried out a survey of payments made by other LA's in the North West.
From 22 responses; 17 paid £104 per year; 1 £240; 1 £224 ; 1 £120 ; 1 £116 + 1 £88.
Zyggy.
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Posted By Sean Warburton
Ours get £10 per week, hope this helps
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Posted By Lorraine Dixon
Hi!
I work for a local authority in the North East and we pay £100 p.a. to first aiders who have undergone a 4 day HSE approved training course.
One way to encourage people to become first aiders is to promote how useful the skills are both in and out of work.
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Posted By martin gray1
Hi all
Thanks to everybody who has responded this information will help persuade my directors.
Lorraine interesting angle I will look at doing what you suggest.
Many Thanks
MG
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Posted By Jason911
We employ around 400 first aiders across the U.K and pay them nout. If you pay people top wages in the first place and then provide them with a skill that may help them save a loved ones life in the future, why would they expect to get paid for it?
Jay
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Posted By martin gray1
Pay top wages, if only I could imagine what life would be like!
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Posted By Darryl Jones
£20 per month but they also have to assist in accident investigation, attend monthly meetings to review accidents for the month and they are responsible for replenishing their own first aid boxes.
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Posted By The toecap
Its all down to their terms and conditions and what contracts say. I worked for a company who payed nothing. I left because they were and still are old fashioned in their ways. They always stated that conditions were those as stated in the NWRA. But in there it states a payment for FAiders. You cant have it both ways
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Posted By Jason911
I just don't believe that people should need to be bribed or rewarded for helping others and possible themselves and their loved ones. If they do, I feel that it is a poor reflection on the company culture.
Sorry if that seems pie in the sky, but i have worked for my company for 10 years and any query by a minority of employees has also been answered to their complete satisfaction. It is not an issue for our 4000 employees in the U.K and 100,000 + employees worldwide.
Jay
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Posted By Max Bancroft
Jay has a point but payments to First Aiders, especially in public sector organisations perhaps reflect that the first aiders were usually drawn from the janitorial/security/portering staff who were not very well paid and who always sought to enhance their low basic pay by seeking allowances for anything seen as an addition to their basic job.
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Posted By martin gray1
Hi Max
I do agree with you in that our staff are low skilled and see it as an extra duty they are being asked to carry out.
I can also see where Jason is coming from but people do tend to have a different view if they are being well paid. I would love to be able to say that our staff are all well paid but unfortunately market forces do not allow it.
MG
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Posted By Glyn Atkinson
£20 / month is the renumeration for our site first aiders, (more in-house training and extra back up from an on site Occupational Nurse.)
The uptake is often from those dads who help to run sporting teams for their youngsters at a weekend, thereby giving them a useful amount of knowledge to take out of work with them to a family activity as well as a duty of care within work.
Our firm has also sponsored first aid grab bags for these dads to use as part of the team set up via our site provider of medical goods and services.
That works for us - we have five sites and over 1000 workers - 40+ first aid trained staff available in various production areas.
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Posted By lewes
We give them all a "pat on the back" and try to promote the benefit of them having it not only at work but also for hobbies and leisure activities.
But then I guess the company is 'careful' with its money !!!
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Posted By TBC
I like Darryl Jones's idea of employee involvement. In a low paid occupation it will give a greater sense of responsibility and being needed as well as the extra cash.
Regards
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Posted By Barry Cooper
Martin
We pay our First Aiders £200p.a. paid half yearly - June and December (holiday times)
Barry
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Posted By James Fearns
Hi Martin,apart from my job on T5 Heathrow,im also a fully certified first-aider.I get around £8.80 per week .all the best .James
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Posted By Christopher
Martin
In organisations that I have worked in, this role was part of the Job Description. It shouldn't be a do you want to do it, if I pay you an extra £10 per week? There are a lot of qualities that the First Aid guidelines suggest are required for a first aider and this should be incorporated as part of the person spec. Some areas of work due to the potential hazards require first aiders to be present, not shuffling from one building to another. If these first aiders cannot be provided then that activity shouldn't take place. Thus the need to ensure that it is written into relevant persons job descriptions. Have a look at the First Aid guidelines. Lots of good arguments for you in there.
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Posted By LIM BOON KHOON
Dear Martin,
We have a Workplace Safety and Health (First Aid) Regulations, 2006 which stipulates the requirement for first aid treatment.
The number of certified first aiders is dependent upon the class or description of the workplaces. In a workplace which employs 26 to 100 employees, the legal requirement is one first aider. Where the workplace employs more than 100 employees, the legal requirement is one first aider for every 100 persons employed or less. In some workplaces, the appointed first aider is pay a token sum of S$ 30.00 whilst in other cases, the primary function includes first aid responsibility and are not pay any remuneration.
We have tried explaining to the employees that first aid training not only benefits the workplace but also at home, at leisure, etc. This does not go well with the employees.
One way to circumvent this problem, is to include this in the Collective Agreement Agenda for negotiation with the Union. This has found to be effective.
I hope this is helpful.
Best Regards
Lim Boon Khoon
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Posted By LIM BOON KHOON
Dear Martin,
The token sum is S$ 30.00 per month. My apology for the oversight.
Best Regards
Lim Boon Khoon
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Posted By srd
Our first aiders are paid £40 per year.
Stephen.
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Posted By Barry Cooper
Although our First Aiders are paid £200 p.a this is by way of a thank you rather than "will you be a first Aider if we pay you". We assess all prospective first aiders before we ask them.
Several employees have volunteered, but have been considered unsuitable for several reasons e.g attitude, approach, character etc
Barry
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