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Posted By col
At present all of our operatives each hold a ecitb card, national safety group passport. They are due to run out in march and I have been asked to put them on new relevant courses. Problem is, some of our customers are wanting skill cards, others are wanting ecitb cards and others are wanting cscs cards. Any ideas??
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Posted By col
Forgot to mention, the company I work for deals with legionella control risk assessments etc so the men are mainly plumbers and consultants
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Posted By bill Strachan
Col,
Suggest you have a look at HSE publication INDG 381 - "Passport schemes, a good practice guide."
This explains that all recognised passport schemes works to a core sylabus and/or common standard. Once you have this information you can then point any client to it and hopefully avoid having to re-train employees on a different scheme because they think it is the be and end all.
Also if you wish to investigate further you could down load HSE research report 422 - Developing guidelines for the selection of designers and contractors under CDM reg's.
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Posted By Dave Wilson
Nice in theory but never happens!
Depends on which card scheme the client has bought into and the people who run these schemes make a concerted effort to tell people that theirs is the only scheme to recognise!
If CSCS get a regular visitors card for construction
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Posted By bill Strachan
Speak for yourself.
The reason clients normally insist on one type of competency card is because they do not know any better. Hence my previous response.
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Posted By Ken Dickson
Col,
As someone once wrote "the customer is King". While we may make a case for the authorisations / approvals we already hold, if a client only recognises one particular type of authorisation, and will not shift that position, it becomes a commercial decission about how far you bend over backwards.
I'm not saying it's right, it's just the way it is.
Ken
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Posted By bill Strachan
From recent personal experience Scottish Power took this stance with my company and insisted all our employees had to have a CCNSG card.
Once they were made aware and understood other recognised schemes such as CSCS covered more or less the same sylabus, they sensibly accepted this.
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Posted By Jim Walker
Well Bill, my experiences suggest you have been lucky.
Dave Wilson comments mirror mine precisely
Col,
Type in CSCS into the forum search engine and you will see this has been debated ad nauseum
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Posted By martin gray1
Hi Col
I am in the same position as yourself at present we attend various sites for some of the National home builders. I could not find a definitive answer of which card to use!
I have settled on the CSCS card and will wait and see what happens, it seems to be the one most of the contractors on these sites are using.
MG
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Posted By bill Strachan
As I originally stated.
If you make the client aware of what the competency cards are set out to achieve and the common core syllabus covered, then any sensible client will take the most pragmatic approach as long as there are no hidden agendas. Maybe I am fortunate to normally work with such clients
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Posted By Dave Wilson
Most of you have been lucky.
If it is construction CSCS is the card of choice / demanded particularily with the MCG / demo boys
In manufacturing / other industries it is normally SPA / CCNSG dependant on what they have bought into.
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