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Posted By steven123442
Just a quick one ladies and gents.
Who can report under RIDDOR?
I appreciate it is the EMPLOYER's responsibility but if the employer decides in their opinion an accident/incident is non-reportable can the EMPLOYEE report it themselves?
My initial thoughts are that the employee can report but what foreseeable reactions would there be from the employer, if any?
Thank you in advance for your replies.
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Posted By I McDonald Hi Steven I posted a similar thread last week http://www.iosh.co.uk/in...m=1&thread=24853&page=41Do not know if you are indicating the "employee" as the injured party or as the "competent H&S assistance" but the thread above may help. If not, more specifics (without names) may get a more comprehensive response. Ian
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Posted By steven123442
Thanks Ian,
I am thinking along the lines of the employee as the injured party. Said employee reports the incident to their line manager and/or safety person who decide that the incident is non-reportable.
Injured party decides (rightly or wrongly) that it is reportable and decides to go ahead with submitting a report.
What are the possible implications if the injured party reports under RIDDOR? (phone call, internet, etc.) Obviously, to report fully they have to detail the company name.
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Posted By I McDonald
Steven
never come across the IP reporting for themselves however; I would suggest the implications could be bad for the employer. If it is identified that the IP is reporting as their employer will not, I would think the enforcement authority would pay a visit to clarify the reasons why.
If an employee working within my company thought their injury was reportable and I though otherwise, I would sit them down and take the time to identify why it was not reportable. If this did not work, I would seek mediation from the safety rep/union rep and try to resolve the mater this way.
If the IP then reported it, I can show I have done all in my power to explain and consult on the reporting requirements of RIDDOR.
Ian
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Posted By steven123442
Thanks again Ian,
My sentiments exactly.
This question was put to me by an acquaintance who felt that his accident was reportable but his employer thought otherwise. I explained RIDDOR to him and told him that if I were his safety manager I wouldn't report it either. He wasn't overjoyed with my response and came up with all kinds of reasons why 'he' thought it was reportable.
I believe there is more to this than just an accident at work!!!
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Posted By Robert.
If he / she enters it in the accident book and there are any future knock-ons, then he / she's done their bit.
If they've reported it as RIDDOR then there must have been an "incident" number, generated either by fax, e-mail or letter. The employer should have a record.
I think it's a sticky wicket and there's possibly more to it.
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Posted By I McDonald
Steven
may be misguided but I get the impression that the IP is intending to put a claim in (could be well of the mark). I this is their intention, it will soon come to light if it is RIDDOR or not without the IP potentially creating problems for themselves at work. The IP is fully entitled to contact the HSE, etc, on any mater however; my experience is the employer may very well put 2 and 2 together. We know what happens then (whistle blower legislation is not as clear cut as it appears). My additional thought would be how it would be viewed during any claim if the IP reported and it came to light that it was non RIDDOR.
Ian
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Posted By Robert.
Could well be a disciplinary for not adhering to Co reporting guidelines!!
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Posted By andrew morris
Responsible person for company does RIDDOR, IP or others make complaint. RIDDOR is set up for companies to notify enforcing authorities of injuries/ill health. Anything else is a referal or request for assistance (complaint!)
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Posted By steven123442
Thank you all for your comments.
I will pass this information on to the injured party and hopefully they will see sense.
If I get any more information as to what the real reasons are behind this I will let you know.
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Posted By Jay Joshi
Has the IP filled in the "Accident Book"--that is their prerogative.
It is my understanding that if an injured party other than the "responsible person" reports it to the RIDDOR Incident Contact Centre (ICC), the ICC will send a copy to the "employer" for confirmation.
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