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Posted By The toecap
Has anybody got any ideas of how to fit a flue liner into a chimney. The job itself probably takes about 15 mins. Access is possibly via a ladder and then onto the ridge via a cat ladder. I'm not completely happy with this and would like tot consider other means. I've got a tower scaffold erected so far but cant think of any thing once on the ride that is reasonable and practicable. This is occasionally a one off property. Its okay to scaffold out a load of properties but when its a one off its quite different. Any ideas? Before there are any snide comments i've inherited this problem and im trying to solve this. For those who are office bound, welcome to the real world.
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Posted By Glyn Atkinson
Could any of this work be safely accessed by use of a cherry picker, or similar MEWP device, depending on the chimney location on the building?
What weight is a typical flue liner?
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Posted By Robert.
Don't see anything wrong with cat / roof ladder as long as you and the equipment are secure.
Is it a domestic job? Can you come straight off the tower onto the cat / roof ladder safely May need more edge protection.
Pull the flue up the chimney with someone at the fireplace or whatever to guide and ease up.
Not an office boy.
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Posted By The toecap
Its working for a housing association. The flue liner cant be pushed up because it is concertina type. I think its called Kopex. A cherry picker would be out of the question due to the front garden and the slopes on the foot path. I have considered this
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Posted By Alexander Falconer
Toecap
Being in the same industry, of fitting systems for Housing Associations, we have had similar issues in the past. Ideally the problem should have been designed out at the tender stage - ie do not recommend kopex flues.
Simple!
On the other hand, getting round to the problem in hand, there is nothing wrong with what you have suggested. As long as the risk has been assessed properly, and you have considered all the options - oh and dont forget the safety harnesses!
In addition, there is nothing weong with using a cherrty picker on a slight slope, as long as there are extending legs fitted to support.
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Posted By Robert.
Toecap
Agree about KOPEX. However if you have enough slack and there no excessive bends in the stack the flue should be able to be pulled / eased up. The first couple of feet coming out of the stack would be knackered. Just cut off.
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Posted By The toecap
Where do the guys fit the harnesses to if they work off a cat ladder. Is it okay to secure it to a cat ladder? I'm not happy with this.
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Posted By Alexander Falconer
Our guys normally attach harnesses to the chimney breasts where possible, however this might not be the case where these are not available.
In this case we would fit eyebolts to the external walls and remove upon completion of the task in hand.
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Posted By The toecap
Thanks for the help
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Posted By Robert Skinner
Hi. We had this problem some years ago and came up with a safer system than ‘cat ladders’.
First issue to consider is how many do you expect to install in any one year? If only one or two then sub contract it to a company that has already geared up.
If you intend to carry out this type of work then the risks will vary dependant on the position of the chimney and the pitch of the roof.
A solution is to purchase/hire a device manufactured by Easi-Dec (tel: 01 767 697 812) It provides a quick and safe working platform which allows safe installation and access to the crawler/roof ladder. This can then be secured to the platform before ascending. Please note:- This is after you have secured your self to the crawler via a proprietary fall restraint/arrest system. On reaching the chimney you may then need to secure a strap, properly designed and fit for the purpose of course, around the stack. This provides a means to attach the operatives harness (double lanyard!) Which allows them to stand up in order to feed the liner down the flue; and stops them falling over the other side of the roof!
Other risks and training requirements will need to be addressed etc but at least it provides a system which prevents falls from the ridge when fitting the liner and when trying to climb onto a crawler from a ladder or even getting onto the roof.
It is of course a two person task.
Drop me an e-mail if you need some advice/detail on the fall arrest system and training we arranged.
Regards
Robert Skinner
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Posted By Chris Pope
Don't step off a tower scaffold unless it is secured to the building, side loadings if you slip can overturn the scaffold. PASMA don't recommend it all.
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