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Posted By Karel Simpson
Afternnon All,
My company have decided that they would like to become accredited to ISO14001 and OHSAS 18001.
Although the company do not expect this to come directly from me with not having environmental experience and having so much to do. However, I still feel like I would to try and input as much as possible into this as it would be a challenge to myself and another string in my bow so to speak. May sound sad that I am prepared to do work on this in my own time but hopefully people will understand why.
Can anyone point me in the right direction to find information on these to research to help me achieve this, any examples of the standard of documentation etc required would be very much welcomed.
Regards
KS
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Posted By garyh
Both systems are not about documentation but are about management systems. See several recent threads on this.
The basic model is that your systems should show the essential elements ie
- Policy
- Planning
- Implementation & Organisation
- Checking & corrective action
- Management review
Overseeing this is Continual Improvement.
All the above must be working properly. There are some specifics to each (eg Environmental Aspects for 14001, Risk Assessment for 18001) however the framework is similar.
I would suggest you buy the standards and then engage an external body (you know the ones!) to do a gap analysis. This will tell you what you need to do to achieve certification. You can of course do the gap analysis yourself.
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Posted By Gwahir
Hi,
If you contact me direct I can give you a toolbox kit that leads down the road in simple for to get teh accreditation
Graham
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Posted By Sean Fraser
My advice would be to go on a Lead Auditor course for ISO14001. Takes care of the Standard requirements, introduces you to the wonderful world of environmental management and you will be qualified to conduct internal audits and offset the mandatory question of competence.
Recommend going to a course run by an approval body as they are usually by those with extensive 3rd party auditing experience, but other serivce providers are available.
Consider an associate membership of IEMA - they could point you in the right direction, you can attend branch meetings and events.
Check out your local Enterprise organisations - they offer breakfast seminars on environmental topics (at least they do in Northern Scotland)
Check out the Carbon Trust website and follow any associated links - very good for energy related issues and there is free promotional material available as a starter for ten when making up a promotional campaign (the "turn off the lights" labels by switches for example)
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Posted By Philip Roberts
Karel,
Have a look at the technical information, IOSH Guidance, on this site (left hand side of page)there is a document in there called "Making a Difference" this is a good starting point for the implementation of ISO 14001,
best regards
Phil
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Posted By Daniel Curtin
Karel
My company are doing the same and I recently went on a very good 3 day course delivered by a company called ECUS Ltd, associated with the University of Sheffield.
What alarmed me was the 'Scope' of the accreditation can be inclusive or exclusive as you like, and so can exclude the parts of the company which would be a challenge to improve, yet the company can still display the logo!
It appears that the basis of all these management systems are same, based on HSG65 (POPMAR).
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Posted By Karel Simpson
Just like to say thank you to everybody who has helped so far.
It has been a great help as well.
Regards
Karel
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Posted By Bill Parkinson
Was involved some years ago in putting all UK sites through ISO 9002 & 14001 certification at the same time. We were assessed for both standards at the same time and all sites were accredited within 12 months from the start of the work.
The key is in what you define within your scope as this sets out what is within the assessment process. Within the scope we also included health and safety management without any problems.
The consultants were involved in training staff to flowchart the processes and then we did the rest ourselves.
Good Luck
Bill
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Posted By Alexander Falconer
Karel, my suggestion would be to give yourself a broad understanding on what is involved with regards to the environment, I did the British Safety Council Diploma in Env Management back in 1999/2000, this meets the requirements of associate membership of IEMA and can honestly say I havent looked back.
I dispute the issue of becoming a lead Auditor before getting the basic knowledge.
Its all very well stating you are competent with this qualification, but you are not you are just a competent auditor not a competent environmentalist.
One major issue you want to watch out, is searching for another organisations Environmental Policy, and changing it to suit your organisation - third party accreditation organisations will sus you out right away.
The key is to identify the aspects which have an impacty on y our organisation, and assess their strengths and weaknesses before deciding on the way forward, by setting the objectives and targets/management programmes. Only after this point will you be in a position to write the policy best suited your organisation.
I have loads of stuff that can help you out, and provide you with some guidance and point you in the right direction.
Please feel free to contact me!
Regards
Alex
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Posted By Philip Roberts Karel, Another good site for free help and advice on environmental issues. They also run free half day seminars and workshops. It is government funded so I hope this doesn't breach AUGs. best regards Phil www.envirowise.gov.uk/
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Posted By David Balkwell Hi There Karel Take care with a couple of things at the moment 1) Often mis-used but the word Accreditation is what the Certification Bodies are ie UKAS Accredited - when you go for assessment and are successful to ISO......9001 14001 18001 you are Certified / Registered check ISO's "It is okay to state either that your organization has been “certified” or “registered” because their meanings are equivalent for practical purposes, but inaccurate to state that it has been “accredited” (unless your organization is a certification/registration body)." From.....If you want to see it in print http://www.iso.org/iso/e...izing/publicizing_6.htmlAll the responses to your question are sound and there is plenty of supporting information around - Ive been involved in Management Systems for nearly 20yrs now and spent 10yr with one of the top Certification Bodies as a Lead Certification Assessor until I decided to set up on my own consultancy business Its worth getting some support but make sure its accurate or you can waste time and money Try www.iso.org and http://isos.isobuilder.comBest of luck David
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Posted By Bennie
Hi Karel - why not enrol for the CIEH registered Environmental management course?. Set at level 3, it learns you how to do the ground work yourself and will possibly lead to cost savings for your company. It is also a good qualification to have.
If you want more info then feel free to e mail me.
Best regards
Bennie
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