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Posted By Sean Warburton
I would like to put forward a justification for using an external provider to train our safety reps to my Management team. I feel that a fresh face raises the profile of any such training & where as i am comfortable running induction training and handling training etc as this is on going and frequent, safety rep training in different and not so frequent. So i don't have experience running this type of course.
Could anyone give me some other good justifications for bringing in an external provider please to help me put this together.
Thanks all
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Posted By Ian G Hutchings
Hi Sean
Thoughts I have are:
- it can be less expensive (internal time is not used up preparing and delivering training);
- can have wider industry experience and are used to working with lots of different companies so can add more value;
- it does often sound better coming from somewhere else as this reiterates what you and others say ("he/she said that as well so maybe it is right?");
- no predetermined thoughts or perceptions on individuals (I sometimes find that people who may be considered 'hard work' can be the most helpful and energised when supported and listened to).
Good luck
Ian
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Posted By Peter Taylor14
let the union train its safety reps, why is this your responsibility?
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Posted By Sean Warburton
They are not union reps, they are employed by ourselves.
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Posted By Adrian Clifton
Sean
Are the 'Reps' appointed by your organisation or elected by unionised members of staff.
If elected, they are union safety reps. Unions train their reps via Stage 1, 2 and 3 courses at the unions' expense.
Adrian
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Posted By Sean Warburton
They are selected by the company, not the union,each department has a safety rep, the position is advertised, and all staff are free to apply for the role. I am simply looking to give them some training to assist them in their role (which is a basic function to be honest)
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Posted By steve e ashton
Sean
You may avoid some confusion (not least amongst readers of this site!) if you rename your appointees as 'Health and Safety Co-ordinators'.
The term 'Safety Representative' is normally reserved to those individuals nominated (by their unions) under the Safety Representatives and Safety Committees regs '77. (And another set of people are called 'representatives of employee safety' in non-unionised workforces, under the Health and Safety (Consultation with Employees) Regs...
However - to answer your question - Could I suggest there may be a lot of good reasons for you to develop and deliver the training for these individuals in-house? I know this isn't what you wanted to hear but...
It could improve your own H&S knowledge and your self confidence. Development of any new type of training is useful experience, can be used to add points to your own CPD.
It can be an excellent way of 'getting to know' the people in your wider Company team. These contacts may be invaluable in your future work.
If you monitor your own output (delegate questionnaires etc) then you will be able to assess how well you are doing and either you will promote confidence in your own abilities amongst the people from other departments (a good thing) or you will pick up ideas and areas where you can improve your training delivery (another good thing).
If you use external consultants to deliver training then you inevitably lose some control over what is said, and sorting out the misunderstandings at a later date can be time consuming, frustrating and costly.
Plus, internal delivery will nearly always be cheaper!
Trying to be helpful, sorry its may not be what you were looking for...
Steve
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Posted By Sean Warburton
Good points Steve, thanks..
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