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#1 Posted : 26 January 2007 12:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lee Mac
Hi All,

We have a construction project, where we have provided a more than adequate parking facility, however, some of the sub-contractors have decided to ignore our facility and many many requests to stop parking on the roadside.

Other than kicking half the men off-site, which you & I know cannot happen, what more can we do? I really at the end of my tether with this.

Anyone with any logical solutions out there who may have encountered this in the past.

Cheers,

Lee
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#2 Posted : 26 January 2007 12:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By I McDonald
Back-charge to contractors for additional road sweeping costs. Sound harsh but it gets the results.

Ian
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#3 Posted : 26 January 2007 13:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Thomas
If the roadway is public highway surely the local traffic wardens would love to come along and ticket them for the quality (or not) of their parking.

It is nice to see a company provide parking facilities for contractors, not many do and then get upset cos staff are complaining of scratches on their car doors
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#4 Posted : 26 January 2007 13:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve Sanders
Lee

Have you asked them why they aren't using the parking you have provided. I may seem adiquate to you, but it may be a problem to them.

Steve
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#5 Posted : 26 January 2007 13:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By I McDonald
Lee

Steve makes a good point however; is the problem because they don't want to get caught in the que in the car park at end shift (my experience is that is normally the case).

Back-charge - you will feel better - their own companies will sort the problem!!

Ian
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#6 Posted : 26 January 2007 13:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lee Mac
Now to keep this in context this is by no means any large scale project 5/6 3 storey apartment blocks on about an acre of land. Where we put the car park is at one end and the road they are parking on is on the other.

These roads would not be classified as being trunk/primary roads, but still I feel the public deserve the right to use the public footpath without us lot causing a nuisance by parking half on the road and half on the footpath.

Before we really kicked off, we, the project management team, discussed with the best siting of the car park. We have located in a position that will allow clear view for ayone entering or exiting and no rush hour traffic.

I & the Site Manager have both spoken to the individuals concerned but they just say sorry and move. When we ask them why, the usual is I dunno, Then again after lunch they are back.

So I am sure you can appreciate it is quite frustrating. I do think we will have to speak with the Police on this issue but this is my very last option, but I am running out of ideas fast, as are our site managers patience!!!

Thanks,

Lee
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#7 Posted : 26 January 2007 13:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By I McDonald
Lee

can you use traffic management/cones/etc, to prevent parking on the road and footpath?

Ian
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#8 Posted : 26 January 2007 14:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lee Mac
Ian,

Unfortunately, our traffic management system like everyone elses will only work with the co-operation of the operatives- which is not the case.

Cones have been used- again unfortunately no good- these guys are quite a handful on this issue.


Thanks,

Lee
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#9 Posted : 26 January 2007 14:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By I McDonald
Lee

obviously, I do not know the specifics of the site. Are the roads part of the infrastructure build for your properties? If they are, include parking rules in Induction (I am sure you already have), employ clamping firm, communicate the change across the workforce and watch the change in parking habits.

My own experience of this type of issue is it takes hold and takes far too much time that could be put to better use. Hard line tactics normally get the best results. Harsh but fair!!

Ian
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#10 Posted : 26 January 2007 14:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alan Hoskins
Lee,

If vehicles are being parked half on the footpath, the police can book them for obstruction - if they are interested...

Alan
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#11 Posted : 26 January 2007 14:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By I McDonald
Lee

just a thought. Can you use Ch8 barriers at the kerbs to provide segregation of traffic and pedestrians. Then remind them all that removal of said barriers is an offence under Sect 8. Offenders will be excluded from the project.

Ian
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#12 Posted : 26 January 2007 14:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By steve e ashton
Or erect herris fencing around the site (for security reasons)- leaving only the (gated)access you want them to use (at the designated parking area). It won't be long before they realise its easier to park near the entrance (where you want them) than to park at the opposite end and walk all the way round...?

Steve
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#13 Posted : 26 January 2007 15:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lee Mac
Cheers Lads,

Some good points being raised but to clarify no the roads are not anything to do with our site- they are for public access.

Regarding wheel clamping- from a purely H&S perspective- totally agree, it would hit hard and get results- but unfortunately, if we did that working relationships would come to an end, and as our PM team would not allow the expenditure or the hassle of getting more subbies appointed, this route is ruled out.

Regarding the use of the barriers- I might get the site managers to buy into this one- although the area we are currently working in an area of Liverpool that would be classified as erm,,, ever so slightly run down, and there are quite a number of unsavoury characters around the area and I could possibly see these going walkabout.

May I add, the cars that are being parked along the road would be of an age, that the owners do not care if they are stolen or not!!;-)

I see the Police being the only route here.

Fun times ahead!!

Thanks,

Lee
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