Posted By Peter Leese
Yes there is a positive point. Let's go out and prove them wrong.

Let's bring a practical and pragmatic approach to H&S. Let's stop denigrating the profession by calling it elf n saf..., let's condemn those advocation OTT practices.

Let's stand up for ourselves.

Posted By Diane Thomason
Quite right Peter and tabs.

Did you notice that while Jez and team were doing their thing (laying a road surface), and J was on about how they could do it really quickly because they had no health and safety man to get in their way (snigger snigger chortle)....

At all times they were wearing their hard hats and high-vis.

Maybe, just maybe, the chaps actually thought it was a good idea to protect themselves when working in the dark around lots of machinery? And maybe the experienced people they were working with thought so too?

What a lot of wimps - if they were truly anti-safety they should have had no PPE and been proud!!

Posted By Peter Leese
GSP - unless you are joking, it was that type of response I had in mind when talking about a practical and pragmatic approach!

Let's concentrate on the bigger issues.

Posted By Charley Farley-Trelawney
Have been talking to many audiences this past year or so from WI to local schools, in an attempt to explain why the local media like to have a shot at degrading what true H&S is.

During the question time, it is simply amazing just how many folks have not the faintest idea what is involved other than the misconception we chose this job because the local tax inspectorate had no vacancies or we were over qualified to become a traffic warden. It is these comments that are easy to respond to and I take pleasure in leaving an audience with a completely different view of true H&S and what it really means.

CFT

Posted By Peter Leese
Actually it was the company car that swung it, so unfortunately I can't go along that path.

Posted By steven bentham
Noel Edmunds - back in the very distant past, 15 years ago, his show was involved in a fatal accident? Or is my memory playing tricks?

Posted By Mike
Mr Lush's selection for the stunt may have been live. The fatal incident was recorded and presumably available to investigators but never broadcast.

Posted By Salus
I do not think we can be practical or pragmatic ( not avin a pop Peter)in our approach to solving H & S issues or tasks anymore, as we have to comply with the appropriate regs, look at the thread on fitting a small aerial on a porta cabin roof some weeks back, no agreed practical or simple answer on how it could be done from loads of safety people,just confusion.

I also hope that the rest of the world think like a lot of us do and know there is good and bad in everyone no matter where you come from.

How about closer to home on driving issues, nearly all persons who drive in the bus lanes (in London)or park illegally are not from the UK.

Those people on the beach do not make me feel bad (we are not all on the beach)it's the people who take the ---- out of our country by flouting our laws,and protesting against our way of life and then have the audacity to say what bad people we are.

We give sanctuary to vast numbers of people from around the world and give them protection, homes, benefits and the right to our laws and legislation.

I cannot go anywhere in the world and receive the same.

We would do well to remember the ultimate contribution that was given by others to ensure that we can go down the pub or anywhere else and talk about what we like without retribution.

Where else in the world do they do this?

We already are a good country.
We already are good people.

but it will not always be so, those in control / power have let all those who made the ultimate sacrifice down, BIG TIME.