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Posted By Dean Stevens
Not that i'm involved in the industry in any way but i have often thought about what manual handling training these guys require.
Now i'm not sure about you but where i live we have to seperate our recyclable waste (Garden waste/biodegradeable in green wheelie, tins/papers in black box and normal waste in grey wheelie).
Since this scheme has started i have noticed that now my grey bin is only getting emptied fortnightly instead of weekly, it is alot heavier to handle than normal. Do these guys get advanced training? as the frequency of the tasks are quite frequent too.
Also isn't a wheelie bin a manual handling aid, (wheels make it easier to move load etc), shouldn't the council have a responsibility to inspect these bins or at the very least the bin men inspect them?
What happens if a bin man is pulling a whhelie bin and the wheel falls off resulting in him suffering a trip?, as the council have aduty of care would they be held responsible?
As i've said i have no connection with the industry but it is something that has often made me think. Anyone have any interesting manual handling / accident stats from this industry?
A few topics to discuss...........
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Posted By GSP
We had a note through the door that if our bins are to heavy/overloaded, they will not be emptied.
So i guess something is in place.....although in my opinion completely ridiculous.
I have just moved into a new build and the everyday waste bin (Green in our area) is 1/3 the size of normal bins.
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Posted By Margia
The HSE have done some research on this, entitled (surprisingly enough) Manual Handling In Refuse Collection, reference HSL/2002/21.
We're in the middle of an HSE inspection of our Waste Management section, and one of the things the inspector has recommended is specialist manual handling training for the bin men.
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Posted By MetalMan
Yes the way things are going we will soon have to wait at home for the bin ben to come so that we can physically move the bins to the bin wagon for them, the bin men will then only have to press a button to operate the lift. Mind you, there will be a continued risk of RSI in their fingers due to all that button pushing. I'm not having a go at bin men by the way,just the fact that soon we will be carrying out risk assessments for any job that requires moving, breathing, looking, touching, thinking etc.
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Posted By Dave B
Our operatives receive training from an in-house refuse collection supervisor who is a trained trainer in manual handling. They cover all the risks included overloaded and damaged bins. They also receive regular refresher training. It doesn't stop injuries though.
Manual handling injuries mainly occur due to residents filling their bins with all sorts of stuff ranging from car batteries, concrete hard core to engine blocks ( I kid you not!). Any bins containing non-domestic waste are not emptied.
Residents are requested to report damaged bins and operatives report damaged bins on a daily report sheet so that the bins can be replaced.
I think if everyone had to complete a day on the back of a RCV then they would be a bit more considerate in what they put in their refuse bins and sacks and how they drove their vehicles in the vicinity of RCVs.
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Posted By GSP
People worked hard in life so that they dont have to go on the back of an RCV ;)
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Posted By Bob Youel
the frequency of emptying is the responsibility of the elected members/snr managers so the guys/girls on the ground have to deal with the day to day issues
in theory people are adequately trained -
However handling in the public domain is completely different to handling in a controlled area - think about it
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Posted By Dave B
GSP - But no doubt you are one of the many considerate members of the public.
Bob - If that last comment was aimed at me, I have to think about it every day, I don't have to be told.
Dave
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Posted By GSP
I'm a very considerate member of the public indeed.
My bins are always half full any way, its the principle though.
Although only my partner and I live in the house 4 bed houses surely warrant a bigger bin than one 1/3 the size of a normal bin.
Plus we had to pay £40 for the ???
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Posted By Robert.
The bin men in our area have resolved the issue of handling.
For the recyclable stuff, they manually remove whatever they consider thats not part of the recycling protocol, leave it on the ground and thats it.
Good eh!
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Posted By GSP
Fantastic HA ........*tumbleweed*
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Posted By Tom B
The HSE have produced a 'best practice' document on "Waste and recycling vehicles in street collection" Ref no. WEB14 06/06
Kettering Borough Council have also produced a fantastic FREE training package e.g. a training film, safe working practices, toolbox talks, a handbook and presentations for safe reversing operations and street collection.
•Waste Services Health and Safety handbook
•Manual Lifting and Handling training presentation
•Refuse and Recycling training presentation
•Reversing Assistant training presentation
•Refuse & Recycling Safe Working Practices
•Toolbox Talks
They are happy to make this material available to assist other Local Authorities in the mission for safer working.
If you would like more information please contact Bob Mason on 01536 534485 or email reversingoperations@kettering.gov.uk
A very big Thank you to Bob and his colleagues for this one
Tom
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