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Posted By Frank Cooper
Some worksites insist on a "blanket" approach to PPE i.e. "All PPE must be worn at all times on this site".
This seems to be applicable regardless of any risk assessments or safe systems of work that may well be in place.
Whilst the PPE regs state that PPE should be used as a last resort when all other means of reducing risk (either by engineering controls or safe systems of work have been exhausted) surely the wearing of PPE just for the sake of complying with general site requirements brings the whole subject of PPE into disrepute?
Opinions, please.
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Posted By anon1234
Personally I think this is ok for basic PPE e.g. hard hat, hi-vis and safety boots on any part of a civils construction site but some areas may require more depending on the task and should be clearly demarcated.
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Posted By Charley Farley-Trelawney
Where I agree with you on this Frank, is I get concerned that a blanket cover takes away the proper and correct thought process to identify what is really required. Blanket policies by the very nature of what they are can introduce hazards when time spent on the issue would ensure what was required would and should be worn.
CFT
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Posted By Pete48
I agree in principle with CFT. However, there are times when the all pervading culture prevents sensible thought and personal responsibility being used. The best case of this was head protection on construction sites. We all know that there are plenty of places where head protection is not really required but the industry failed in or didn't want to manage a sensible approach, so the law made it blanket.
I always prefer to see systems where employees understand the what and why of their ppe, that has been mandated by risk assessment, and use it to meet the circumstance. But that requires trust and understanding. Something that is not always a very common commodity. (from any angle)
Saying no is so much easier and often seen as failsafe, until??
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Posted By Chris Packham
As I understand it, one of the regulatory requirements for personal protective equipment is that the user has to have received adequate training in the correct use of the PPE. I find it difficult to envisage how this can be compatible with the blanket approach.
Chris
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Posted By Raymond Rapp
Totally agree with you Frank. Some of the policies (that is what they are) are becoming too risk averse. We will soon be sending guys out in armour plated suits. Chaps like me are still trying to work with the old fashioned notion of sensible risk management.
Ray
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Posted By Peter Longworth
I think it depends on the type of work undertaken. Where I work We have a mandatory requirement for safety shoes in all production areas. This doesn't mean that every production area has the same level of risk, but it does allow employees to be transferred from one area to another without too much trouble. Similarly, because a lot of the work involves handling metal components we have a mandatory requirement for employees to wear gloves, unless a risk assessment has found that this is not necessary. This doesn't mean however that we only rely on gloves and safety shoes to provide protection. We also provide handling aids such as hoists, vacuum lifts etc and we do a lot of work on die set maintenance to eliminate burred edges on components.
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Posted By db
The law, as I recall, does not call for a blanket approach where hard hats are concerned. Where there is no risk then you don't need to wear one. However, scores of accidents are caused because the wearer forgets to put the hat on when working in an area where something is likely to fall on their heads.
Its all about human factors. We just get bogged down in the task at hand and forget. It is reasonable for a blanket approach to wearing hats at all times - if your risk assessment suggests that workers will be at risk in some areas of the site it would also have to cover the human factors issue - accident history shows us people are likely to forget.
If you can get it right, hopefully it'll be second nature to the workforce. Many of the big companies can get this right - its all down to good management.
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Posted By Andy Brazier
My view is that blanket rules work very well for hard hats, safety shoes and overalls. This is because none of these restricts the wearer too much, and there is little opportunity to select the wrong type of PPE.
They work less well in other cases. For example, a blanket rule to wear light-eye protection can mean people think their eyes are protected and neglect to put goggles on when required. Also, gloves because people start to think that one pair of gloves will protect them against all types of hazard. Also, I dislike blanket rules for hearing protection because this has such an impact on communication.
Where a blanket rule applies, the requirements should not be repeated in procedures, permits-to-work etc. These should only list PPE that is in addition or instead of the blanket PPE. Also, people issuing procedures and permits must ensure they only list appropriate PPE. It is very easy just to write on them all that goggles must be worn. People start to realise this is pointless in many cases, and ignore the requirements even when it is necessary.
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Posted By holmezy
Morning all,
I had a similar discussion with a customer of ours. We supply tiles and stone worktops and have a hi viz and safety shoe policy for anyone who enters our storage areas. This bloke agreed with that, but wanted to know why the building site, with a blanket policy, insisted that he wore a hard hat whilst he was doing his work as a floor tiler. Nothing above him, no one else in the vicinity, nothing to bump into, just him in a room with a box of tiles and some adhesive! He's got no problem with wearing the hard hat when going to and from his work area, nor when he has to go into other areas, but wearing a hard hard while tiling the floor is, in his words, " a ******* joke".
To be honest, I agreed with his side of the arguement, but can also see that blanket policy is easier to manage......but not necesarily the most appropriate.
Policies should be sensible and not an excuse to take the easy route.
Holmezy
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Posted By Dave Wilson
Safety Goggles and Gloves is now creeping in on quite a few construction sites irrespective of your trade.
Sparkies wearing gloves with the fingers cut off!
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