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#1 Posted : 24 February 2007 02:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Brett Day Given the Emergency Workers (Obstruction) Bill, implemented on 20 February 2007, means that anyone who gets in the way of an emergency worker responding to an emergency situation can now be prosecuted and fined up to £5000. And the idiot behaviour displayed by some trying to break the corden at Buncefield to get photos and video footage. I find it sad that the BBC, a supposedly reputable organisaton is asking the public for footage and video clips, there is the weak disclaimer: "When taking photos or filming please do not endanger yourself or others, take unnecessary risks or infringe any laws." On a moral level should they be even asking members of the public, given that like Buncefield, the only way to get this sort of footage is for persons to put themselves at risk? Could the BBC (and other news organisations) be held liable as inciting behaviour contrary to the above Bill, despite the disclaimer?
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#2 Posted : 24 February 2007 03:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By William I don't know whether they could or not, but i would say that the BBC news is more of a tabloid operation now, something which is disheartening as i like facts and not sensationalist rubbish. It is sad that this is the direction which the BBC now takes as they will just end up a laughing stock over the world instead of the respected impartial news organisation which they were once recognised as.
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#3 Posted : 24 February 2007 11:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lee Daines I know that some Fire & Rescue Services are actually filming large scale incidents for training purposes and indeed sometimes for gathering evidence. If this footage were made available to the media people wouldn't have to risk life and limb or hamper the services for footage that may never be used.
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#4 Posted : 24 February 2007 12:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Shillabeer The media at any incident not just a rail accident are always the same. They want to get the super shots, etc, regardless of the problems they cause. In any major incident both the police and the organisations involved have arrangements in place to inform the media at various stages of the event. It is a pity that some media personnel find this doesn't fit in with their remit of get somthing sensational for the average TV viewer. Often giving the most awful information such as at Clapham when the intitial death toll was put in the hundreds when (Thankfully) it was much lower. The only way to prevent this sort of behaviour is to make it unlawful for the media to go anywhere near the scene, but then there would be an outcry of someone wanting to cover something up. On a more general note this incident will be the first real test of the Rail Accident Investigation Board. I know the chief of thast organisation well and he is an extremely experienced Railwayman with many years working in the safety and engineering arena. Thankfully his team will be looking at the cause and how to prevent it happening again and not at who can we send to jail. My plea to subscribers to this forum is not to speculate as to the cause of this tragic event and please keep an open mind as to the cause
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#5 Posted : 24 February 2007 13:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By Brett Day Bob, my main concern is that the cry for photo's/footage seems aimed at the public. After Buncefield the Professional? press/media were noted as being co-operative, however, there were still a few wannabe idiots with camera phones arrested within the corden area.
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#6 Posted : 24 February 2007 17:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Shillabeer Hi, Just watched the first game of rugby, good game looking forward to the next one so just back. Sorry if I offended anyone, not intended, just it seems to me that everyone seems to jump to conclusions. I agree that some photographers (not all accredited pressmen) do try and get in close so to speak and this behaviour is less than the level it should be. But the problem is they are not doing anything illegal and it shows how inconsiderate some of them can be. My message is simply wait and see what the RAIB investigation comes up with rather than speculate on possible causes.
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