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Posted By Alexander Falconer
I have been requested to do some ad-hoc consultancy work for my sons nursery, and this is giving me the perfect opportunity to start up a consultancy part-time (with my eventual aim of building the work, and going full time at some point in the future)
Obviously I need some PI insurance, and I know this issue hass been raised in the past.
Can anyone recommend a reasonable insurance company/broker?
I am being quoted £460 plus, which seems a bit excessive especially for doing ad-hoc consultancy work and I am wondering whether or not it would be worth the hassle.
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Posted By Alexander Falconer
Ian
The quote was given through the same website you mentioned.
There were others quoted that only covered public liability and were much cheaper.
My quote covered both public & professional insurance, but for some reason, the facility does not let me select only PI insurance
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Posted By Ali
i don't know any personally, but there are companies advertising within SHP journal.
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Posted By Ian G Hutchings
Alex
You could maybe try Hiscox, Norwich Union or AXA for a standalone PI insurance. Also, Barclays may now offer a competitive comparison (blimey I sound like an insurance salesman).
Cheers
Ian
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Posted By Alexander Falconer
Getting somewhere now!
What sort of levels would one recommend?
£1M?
£0.5M?
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Posted By Phil Grace
Alexander,
Can't comment about level of PI premium with any direct experience but it seems of the right order of magnitude.
As regards PL and PI - you'll need both. If you put down your briefcase in the wrong place whilst at a client's premises and someone tripped over it you could end up being sued. For this you'd need PL. If you climbed onto a FLT during some training or demonstration and ran into the building, damaged truck or similar then that could result in claim from client. Again that woudl be a PL claim.
More seriously if you gave advice or got client to do something that resulted in a loss of some sort e.g. damage to equipment then you'd need the PI.
Phil
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Posted By Clare Gabriel
Please do not even utter those words!!! Is it required? It certainly is!!
Just look at the society in which we work and oh my goodness if you are working for a school you need belt and braces, twice over - this is kids and schools!!!. £460 sounds very very cheap. PI is one of those where you 'get what you pay for'.
Many companies will now not touch you unless you have at least £5 million cover. Certainly shop around but get recommendations from existing reputable consultant's as to what they use. I use a good broker and he has arranged me a policy through Merkel and its just shy of £900, but it has all the relevant parts.
Please do not consider working for yourself without it as in the tragic event of a problem you can kiss goodbye to your assets. Also you owe your customers the security of knowing you are covered.
Only the cowboys operate without PI!!!
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Posted By Alexander Falconer
Clare
I share your sentiments exactly.
I am currently employed in the Domestic Gas Industry at present, and actively participate as a parent within my youngs son's nursery.
The nursery manager has expressed some concerns over the services they currently receive from elsewhere. She, knowing my occupation as being HSE Manager, has asked if I would be able to help out?
I have indicated that I am happy to help out, however given the scale of the tasks to hand, and the poor service previously encountered the task itself is a lot bigger than anticipated.
Rather, as you state be a "cowboy" taking the money and run, my son still has to attend the same nursery, so for him and his friends I owe it in my professinal capacity to do a good job and do it properly. Who knows it may be the start of something big.
I have registered my intent as a sole trader, and am currently searching for suitable insurance that will protect myself, but at the same time not take a large chunck of my "earnings" (which for the next 6 months or so will probably be pocket money or so), until I source additional contracts/work and build the business to the extent I can make a living from it.
There is no intention of me starting the task(s) in hand until I have adequate protection.
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Posted By Advanced Safety
Myself and other consultants i work with all use a Broker called Sennet Professional Indemnity. They are pretty good and specialise in Health & Safety PI and PL. You can find them on google.
Good luck
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Posted By DavidW
Can't disagree with any of the comments above re the need for it. Some things to bear in mind:
check whether the level of liability is per claim or on an aggregate basis eg you have £1M of cover but if this is aggregate and you are unfortunate enough to have 2 claims in one year you will only have a max of £0.5M for each claim. Some of the cheaper policies are set up this way but it is not always obvious up front.
Worth speaking to IOSH as they have a scheme, I found it expensive comapared to others but depends very much on the type of work you are doing. I ended up going through IEMA as I'm a member of that and found very good value EHS cover for £1M level of liability.
Good luck with the search, I found it a bit of a minefield but it's worth the effort.
David
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