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Posted By Kevin_20056
Hello
Can Anyone tell me where I can get free MSDS for pesticdes online please
Thanks in advance
Kevin
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Posted By John Murgatroyd
tried google ?
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter
Kevin
The manufacturers' sites should be tried first. If you don't know the manufacturer, try here: http://www.ilpi.com/msds/index.html and follow you nose.
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Posted By John Murgatroyd
I usually google the product name, then follow the actual chemical name. It's remarkable how the msds SO frequently varies from the reality.
Don't google a well-known sweetener....it's scary !
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Posted By Kevin_20056
Can anyone tell me what are the appropriate legislation and standards that are related to pesticides please
Thanks in advance
kevin
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Posted By Simon Ayee
Kevin
The following relate to authorisation/approval regimes for pesticides:
The Food and Environment Protection Act 1985 (FEPA) and The Control of Pesticides Regulations 1986 (COPR)
Biocidal Products Regulations 2001
See HSE (http://www.hse.gov.uk/pesticides/) and PSD (http://www.pesticides.gov.uk/home.asp) websites for further info & guidance docs.
Don't forget COSHH - Approved Code of Practice L9 - The safe use of pesticides for non-agricultural premises (COSHH Regulations 1994). It is out of print I think but useful if you can get hold of it.
One supplier has a comprehensive list of data sheets but I don't have the web address to hand.
Simon
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Posted By Simon Ayee
Kevin
I will email you direct with the supplier website address - it contains links to data sheets for commonly used products.
Simon
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Posted By Kevin_20056
Hello
I ned another help from you.
I am involved in a workplace where some 40 pesticides are being used.
I need to carry out a risk assessemnt in order to find out if there is adequate arrangement for the safe use of the pesticides used by the worker.
My question are
1. Do I have to assess each of the pesticides one by one.
2. Can I use the coshh to assess the pesticides.
3. Are there any standard assessment tools available.
Thanks in advance
rgds
kevin
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Posted By Kate Graham
Hi Kevin
First you should go through the msds for all the pesticides and note what the hazards of them are. For most of them they will probably be very similar, so write this on a single list, but you may find a few that are particularly nasty.
For the very nasty ones you should next establish whether you really need to have them for some reason, or can they be replaced by something less hazardous.
Then you should decide what precautions you need for the pesticides taking into account what you are doing with them and how much of them you have. Probably you will decide to apply the same precautions to all of them (but maybe not - in that case you will have to say which ones need different precautions.) Write the precautions down together with the description of the hazards and the list of pesticides and voila, you have your COSHH assessment. It's a good idea to append the msds to the COSHH assessment.
HSE have produced a free tool for COSHH assessment, it's at http://www.coshh-essentials.org.uk.
Kate
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Posted By bill gladwin
I've created a link to many kind of standards.
See if one of these can help
www.anystandard.net
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Posted By Bob Youel
It sounds like pesticides are being used where the staff are not qualified; as if they were the information that they receive when attending the various courses re pesticides [P1 etc] provides a wealth of advice - I advise that you get your people qualified and /or get hold of the info that was provided to them at one of their courses
A business was fined recently where a user of pesticides fainted at the end of a shift and others thought that they had gone home - The individual was found by a member of the public
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
Just to re-emphasise Bob's posting. There has been another recent discussion on pesticides on these forums. The training requirements are tightly defined and unless you are well experienced in training in this area book your people onto a course, most horticultural colleges run these but LAs often could provide names of local providers.
The HSE guidance for me just re-iterates the CoPR requirements and the associated acop, but the link with COSHH is always a bit difficult. The Approval process has removed most of the really difficult materials and then defines where the remainder can be used and by whom. For instance creosote can be used for wood protection but not as a coal tar wash on fruit trees. Thus with the strict training programme, which includes clearly defined methods of work, PPE, storage, handling and mixing and safe disposal of excess, first aid and more the scope for any additional information in a formal COSHH assessment is rather limited.
If you do not have the manufacturers sheet then do not even think about using the pesticide - the mixing instructions, first aid requirements etc are all in them. All manufacturers make the sheeets available electronically or hard copy just get in contact. If you do not know the pesticide name and manufacturer there is only one course of action I am afraid - analyse it, get a consignment note together and dispose of it. Do not make an intelligent guess even.
On the question of multiple pesticides and the assessment requirement for each. Again this is dealt with via the training and certification arrangments - It essentially is determined by the application method more than the material itself.
Bob
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Posted By Ainsy
Also you should consider that not only do they require NPTC PA1 certificate for using pesticides approved by PSD but also they will need to also have other modules for method of application such as hand held sprayers, knapsacks or granuler spreaders
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
Ainsy
Have to agree with your implicit message that people need to fully understand what they are doing with pesticides.
We always tend to think around COSHH but it is also a major environmental issue - application techniques have a huge input to the final task methodology. Overspray is an offence as much as using approved materials in a non-approved task. I find it amazing that after nearly 20 years of the regulations commercial organisations still see the use of these materials as no more than a "domestic" procedure.
Bob
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