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#1 Posted : 07 March 2007 14:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By songwriter If I am writing a safety policy for my company, or any company, i have read what the content should be, but the way 'I' understand it, it seems like i have to write about 10 pages for the policy and when i look at policy's in other workplaces with a lot more hazards, they seem to get away with one page and i somehow don't see all the hazards associated with that particular workplace. which bit am i misunderstanding and am i qualified to write the policy? thanks for any advice. (i have the Nebosh cert)
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#2 Posted : 07 March 2007 14:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By steven123442 Hi Songwriter, The policy is in three parts: Statement of intent Roles and responsibilities Arrangements I think the one page document you are talking about must be the statement of intent. The roles and responsibilities section details responsibilities for the board, MD/CEO, Directors, etc. right down to employees on the 'shop floor' The arrangements section is the area you will start detailing hazards, risk assessments, maintenance, instructions, etc. Hope this helps and I hope I understood your question correctly. Steve
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#3 Posted : 07 March 2007 14:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tabs Hi Songwriter. This comes down to definitions (another thread touched on this recently too) and what you might see as policy, another sees as "arrangements". Don't worry ... if you have a one-pager, it is probably what I would describe as a Policy Statement - and it probably says that your company will make Arrangements to ensure that laws and moral obligations are met. That would be accompanied somewhere by a big book of specific policies (smoking; COSHH; Manual Handling; etc) and perhaps even by risk assessment, method statements or safe systems of work (job sheets/descriptions). However - if you choose to melt it all into one document, and it is read and followed then so be it :-) The best one in the world is the one that is supported at all levels and used as a standard against which to work. If I had that, I wouldn't worry about the shape, title, or length of it.
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#4 Posted : 07 March 2007 15:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By garyh This is going to sound a bit corny but HSG 65 "Successful Health & Safety Management" has some good advice.
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#5 Posted : 07 March 2007 15:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By songwriter Thanks for your response, any idea where i can see a sample policy (even tho i do have the company one, just to compare)
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#6 Posted : 07 March 2007 15:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert. If you do google it will bring up hundreds of UK companies with different styles, wording and formats.
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#7 Posted : 07 March 2007 15:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By Philip McAleenan Have a look at the sample policy on our website. Feel free to use it and adapt to your own needs, http://www.web-safety.com/freesm/ regards, Philip
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#8 Posted : 07 March 2007 15:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By Frank Newman Safety policies are often written with legal advice so as to ensure that they cover all possible eventualities and that the company complies with relevant legislation. Thus, like any legal document there is an obligation to fill at least ten pages. I have one of Scottish origin, 1990, which covers 40 pages, an American one, dated 1915, of 43 pages but including 20 pages of "health hints" (why it is wrong to spit) These documents are often presented to new and existing employees with a request that they sign that they have read and understood them. HoHoHo. However, one does occasionally encounter the health and safety policy which limits itself to general but specific and firm declarations : * All accidents and work related health problems are preventable. * The company and company management are responsible for the protection of the health and safety of all employees and concerned non-employees * The company undertakes to comply with all relevant health and safety legislation * We welcome the advice, participation and assistance of all persons who find opportunities for us to improve our health and safety performance. A document such as the above can be included in any new employee orientation documents. Printed up in large type and nailed to the walls. Should be signed by a living person, preferably someone known to the employees. It must NOT be signed "The Management" Merv
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#9 Posted : 07 March 2007 16:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert. Merv, On your last point "should be signed by------" I joined a debate recently on precicely that topic based on the policy satement does not need to be signed. If the MD, CEO, etc is the responsible person and the policy is a statement of intent then surely if it isn't signed then the statement means nothing. I stood on the fence on that one. I believe that the general concensous is that the statement must be signed. Our clients request a signed statement, but I could never find any legislation to say that it must be signed, eg HASAW etc 1974 Regards
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#10 Posted : 07 March 2007 17:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Caney Songwriter How did you get NEBOSH cert if you don't know how to write a Health and Safety policy - standards have slipped since my day!! John
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#11 Posted : 07 March 2007 17:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Frank Newman John, please shut up. Rob, since we are talking with/dealing with people, I like safety statements that come from a known person and mean something to the people they are addressed to. Each plant manager or MD has their own personal style and vocabulary. Reading the safety policy should remind you of that person. It's personal. OK, some MDs never visit production sites. But who is the most senior person that employees can relate too ? That is the one who does the safety policy. Merv
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#12 Posted : 07 March 2007 17:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By Marti Martin Thank you Merv (alias Frank - or vice versa). It's comforting to know the we 'new kids' have knights in shining armour rushing to the defence of those of us with less knowledge. We all have to start somewhere and it takes courage to ask for help, especially if you expect to be shot down in flames! I may well be in the firing line next time. Marti
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#13 Posted : 07 March 2007 18:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By Charley Farley-Trelawney Garyh HSG 65 not at all corny! Why on earth would you think so? It is a good solid foundation and principle of H&S and would go a long way to contributing to a H&S policy statement. CFT
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#14 Posted : 07 March 2007 19:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jack '- - - to general but specific - - -' An interesting concept Merv
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#15 Posted : 08 March 2007 03:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By Frank Newman Jack, "general but specific" You are right. An interesting concept. Which is exactly what I was trying to say in making the distinction between an HSG65 policy and one which actually talks to and can be understood by employees. As an example, "All accidents are preventable" This is a specific statement of faith. It is general in that it does not refer to WAH or COSHH or stress or any other H&S legislation but englobes the totality of our trade. And I want a senior manager (at least four levels higher than me and on ten times my salary)(difficult that one) to look me in the eyes and say "merv, I personally am convinced that all accidents are preventable" And I specifically do not want that manager to say "Hey, lets go for better figures next year" Merv
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#16 Posted : 08 March 2007 09:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andy Brazier It is a shame that our policies are reviewed by the lawyers and not marketing because I believe we are trying to 'sell' safety. The lawyers seem to want the paperwork watertight. However, my view is that it is a much bigger crime to not implement what is written than to have a few gaps in our documents. I also think it is unfortunate that OHSAS 18001 encourages statements about compliance with legislation to be included in policy statements. I don't think anyone would be impressed if a Taxi company advertised that all its cars were MOTed and drivers had licences. In fact them saying that would cause big alarm bells in my mind. I'm not even impressed when we say we will exceed the requirements of legislation. Regulations cannot tell us how to run our business, and that is something we need to take responsibility for. I totally agree with making policies more personal. How many people understand the term 'reasonably practicable'? Including it in a policy statement will only cause confusion. My view is that senior staff need to be referring to policy statements on a very regular basis, and if it is not language they are happy with using I doubt this will happen. I like the policy statement 'there is nothing so important that we cannot take the time to do it safely.' But only if it suits the company. An alternative can be 'we are a caring company and will do everything we can to make sure you do not get injured or ill at work.' These phrases set the scene, and I believe then lead to more simple and sensible arrangements and organisations.
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