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#1 Posted : 07 March 2007 15:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By MICHAEL T
Can anyone confirm if there are any rulings on which colour of hi-viz can be used on roadworks. We recently had one of our guys told that he would have to leave site as he was wearing orange hi-viz and not yellow!
I know that there is a ruling on the railways, where yellow can be seen as a green light, but I have never come across this on roadworks before. I used the argument that orange is used on cones so why not on hi-viz jackets. Is this likely to be some internal company restriction.
- Mike
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#2 Posted : 07 March 2007 15:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By Philip McAleenan
Normally fluorescent yellow or fluorescent orange-red. See new Chapter 8 Traffic Signs Manual, Operations O6.3

Regards Philip

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#3 Posted : 07 March 2007 15:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert.
I don't think your arguement wouldn't really wear. I'm not aware of guidance.
Imagine all 1 metre high cones all orange hi-vis. Drivers see them as a defined perimeter and they're designed to take impact. Now imagine a guy with same colour hi-vis near the perimeter edge.

Orange and yellow on highways,in my view, are two distinctive colours.
It could be argued that (most) european drivers see yellow hi-vis as worn by highway workers. If its company policy then its a fair and good one. I've yet to hear, though, of a driver mistaking a highway worker as a green traffic indicator!

I may be wrong on all counts as well.
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#4 Posted : 07 March 2007 16:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Philip McAleenan
Traffic Signs Manual, official guidance, online at

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pg...s/tss/tsmanual/chapter8/

Philip

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#5 Posted : 07 March 2007 16:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Pat Hannaway
Hi Michael,
according to the book "Safety at Streetworks and Roadworks" the colour of high visibility clothing should be yellow. The exact phrase is "The colour of the background material should normally be fluorescent yellow from Table 2 of BS EN 471 and the retro-reflective material should comply with Table 5" .

Some PPE suppliers catalogues only have high visibility fluorescent yellow clothing in their section for "Roadworks".

I know that the railway industry insists on orange high visibility clothing


Pat
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#6 Posted : 07 March 2007 17:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By Teresa Green
As an aside I seem to recall that highway agency officers patrolling the motorways have orange high vis.

We have found that in summer when plagued with flies they aren't attracted to orange ones but are to yellow ones. However some clients will not allow orange vests.

Teresa
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#7 Posted : 07 March 2007 19:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By RP
Generally they should (note: not must) be yellow. This is based principally on the contrasting colour of the general green back ground. Chapter 8 of the Traffic Signs Manual is guidance on best practice and providing the garment meets the EN 471 Standard (previously BS6629) then it would be deemed suitable.

This means that if you can justify florescent pink or green then it would meet EN471.

But, good practice is yellow and always has been, but it is not illegal to wear orange...
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#8 Posted : 08 March 2007 08:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter Leese
You're right Teresa. Flies (and especially thunderflies) don't seem to be attracted to orange.

Not a big issue if you don't work in those conditions but it is for the operatives who have to live with it.
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#9 Posted : 08 March 2007 09:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By MICHAEL T
Thanks to all who have responded.
So it looks like its down to "should normally be fluorescent yellow" versus "shall normally be fluorescent yellow or fluorescent orange-red".
I do yearn for the day when guidance will contain words like: shall, will and must.
Like most of you I know full well the merits of wearing orange hi-viz as the other side of the business takes us to landfill and sewerage sites where wearing yellow seems to have the same effect as covering yourself with jam!
Regards
Mike
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