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Posted By Christopher
Hi
Can anyone provide me with a definition of risk management and one for health and safety!!
Thank you.
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Posted By mark gough2
risk management is the management of risk :0)
Health and Safety at work is ensuring the H+S of persons at work :0)
sorry on a serious note its possibly
risk management been the tool that ensures a workplace is safe and free from risks to health.
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Posted By DRB
Mark's not quite correct on that one. Show me a workplace that's "free from risks"!
Risk management is about achieving acceptable levels of risks in the workplace
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Posted By Philip McAleenan
Christopher,
As an alternative to looking for simple definitions, it can be conclusively demonstrated that the terminology, “risk management”, is self-contradictory.
By definition, “risk” is the possibility or likelihood of harm or danger. It is the absence of certainty, and in its place chance determines which of two or more outcomes are likely.
“Management” is the authoritative control of operations. If there is control of an operation, chance is removed and there is only one possible outcome, that which is established at the outset. If it is not known with certainty what the outcome will be, chance exists and any action is a gamble on the outcome being what is desired.
In practice, “risk management” posits an acceptable level of risk and proceeds to manipulate the circumstances to increase the odds in favour of non-injurious outcomes. Laudable, but ultimately, by accepting and acting on any level of risk we are gambling with the safety of workers.
The correct approach to safety in the workplace is to determine what the appropriate operational controls are and ensure that they are put into place.
If you drop me an e-mail I can forward you a more comprehensive paper on the topic.
Regards, Philip
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Posted By Phillip
Health and Safety is a means of banning a practice
Risk Management is a means of allowing a practice
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Posted By Simon Shaw
I would say that they are one and the same thing - identification, assessment and control of hazards (look on the HSE website at risk management).
Risk Management is often used in a wider context; health and safety being one element of risk management - financial risk, security risk, and environmental risk being others.
Philip McAleenan appears to be claiming that we should have risk free workplaces - seems a bit strange to me.
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Posted By BOD
Risk management is a central part of any organisation's strategic management. It is the process whereby organisations methodically address the risks attaching to their activities with the goal of achieving sustained benefit within each activity and across the portfolio of all activities.
The focus of risk management is the identification and treatment of these risks. Its objective is to add maximum sustainable value to all the activities of the organisation.
Health and safety risk is one area of business risk (which include, financial, operations, strategic)covering the well being of staff, contractors, customers and other third parties.
In the safety field, it is generally recongised that consequences are only negative and therefore the management of safety risk is focused on prevention and mitigation of harm.
Hope this helps.
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Posted By Robert Tailby
I would see H&S management as a sub-category of risk management, in that risk management is the systematic identification, assessment and control of all threats to a business or organisation.
Have a look at the IOSH publication "Business Risk Management" - downloadable from this site under the "Technical Information" section - for a more lengthy discussion of the concept and how it can help the H&S professional.
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Posted By Chris Jerman
What seems to be being confused here is the use of the word risk. It is not a synonym for hazard or anything similar. Risk is a concept based on the combination of 2 independent variables that is used to allocate priority relative to a set standard or scale; usually high, med and low.
Therefore, risk management is the 'shuffling' or management of those priorities relative to each other based upon their position on the playing board (matrix). Risk management is NOT the action that we take - it is the order in which we take it. You don't manage risks you manage RISK.
So, safety is a doctrine or subject just as is environment or quality. As you cannot achieve everything at once, decisions must be made as to the allocation of resources such as time, money and effort. Using a common scale such as high, med and low using comparable descriptors allows cross functional decision making and up/down reporting. Deciding precisely what to do (with your resources) is management - safety management, quality management whatever, but NOT risk management.
Health and safety - making the place healthier and safer for people
RM - the prioritised allocation of resources (set against the objectives and background of your particular business) necessary to achieve reasonable assurances that aims are being met
Well, I reckon so anyway.
CJ
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Posted By Pete48
1. H&S
Occupational safety and health is the discipline concerned with preserving and protecting human and facility resources in the workplace
2. Risk
Decisions to accept exposure or to reduce vulnerabilities by either mitigating the risks or applying cost effective controls.
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Posted By Andy Shaw
I haven't been surprised to see the comments regarding a lack of understanding between risk mgmt and H&S as it is a real problem for most (but not all) H&S people. The key thing is to first understand the term 'risk' which is so widely mis- used professionally and publically. For example if we think of risk simply in its operational terms of the likelihood of an event coupled with the impact of such an event regardless of whether or not it occurs then we're on a reasonable track. The meteorologist on the radio this morning reported a 'risk of rain'. He, like most people including H&S personnel, confuses risk and likelihood or probability. Risk management has been grasped by the H&S brigade to bring some credibility to a dying profession. Risk management is about 'achieving the most efficient combination of controls necessary to provide reasonable assurance that business objectives can be achieved reliably'. That might include safety and it might not. It might be argued that effective financial risk management is the most vital discipline for any organisation! There is a pervasive view that safety is the number one priority of any business. We all know, deep down,that's not true. The number one priority for any business is to make a profit. Ideally making that profit safely!
Further, it might be argued that risk management is increasingly being recognised as a benefit to effective and efficient business whereas H&S is now a second class discipline offering little in the way of business value in the way that most currently practice it.
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Posted By Lawrence Waterman
A discussion about risk management and health and safety is always welcome. Risk is about the broad threats and opportunities that every organisation faces, and managing those risks and siezing the opportunities is often the difference between success and failure - profits, good service, reputation, survival - for the organisation.
Health and safety addresses an important component of the risk landscape, how important will depend on the intrinsic hazardous nature of the enterprise (for banks, most risk is financial, whereas in mineral extraction there are significant operational risks).
Just as the existence of the GP doesn't herald the death or even the demoting of the specialist consultant in medicine, so the rise of risk management doesn't signal the demise of the competent H&S practitioner. Many risk managers are focused on insurance purchasing and similar desk-bound activities, whereas those of us who work "at the sharp end" helping manage real risks practically are increasingly seen as valuable members of senior management teams. What matters is the quality of the team.
Of course, not everyone with the title "risk manager" is competent, but they all have a potential, narrow vested interest in blowing their own trumpets. Similarly, H&S practitioners who are unwilling to positively contribute to the wider picture of risk management are doing our profession a disservice. The right approach will be based upon a sensible balance between the two groups working together.
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Posted By Dave Wilson
Maybe we should embrace the fact that there are many challenges to all business and safety is just one it is how you manage those identified 'risks' whether they are financial or safey or anything else is the management bit.
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