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#1 Posted : 13 March 2007 15:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By Frank Newman "Red noses have been banned from the set of the BBC's celebrity Fame Academy special - even though it is raising funds for Comic Relief. A spokeswoman for producers Endemol said the foam noses had been declared a fire risk to the filming venue. Comic Relief Does Fame Academy is being filmed at the Grade II-listed County Hall in central London. "We have to comply with health and safety rules - it's not a conventional TV studio," the spokeswoman said. "" http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/...ntertainment/6444791.stm Sets a new, higher standard for Fire Risk Assessments Merv PS : has anyone ever tried to set light to a red nose ?
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#2 Posted : 13 March 2007 15:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By mrs.seed They need to talk to 'changing rooms' I seem to remember them making light fittings and then telling you they must coated in fire retardant spray from a can. As for setting fire to one, never crossed my mind till you mentioned it, now where's my local sainsbury's?.......
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#3 Posted : 13 March 2007 17:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Sandler CMIOSH I wonder why H&S gets such a bad name? I have seen and heard a lot of silly reasons why something could not be done for safety reasons, the latest one was eyewash stations could not be used because it could give or pass on conjunctivitis! BUT this is plain stupidity and gives us a really bad name, how come there is not a health warning on the box as this could be a choking hazard. It would be nice if an legal body steeped in a contradicted the fact. Just a thought!!!!!!!!!
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#4 Posted : 13 March 2007 18:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Pete48 The report says that "all non-essential items are banned from the studio areas to protect the building". What a wheeze! It must be a bit of fun surely. Oh no, an expert shall appear and determine the exact physics and probabiltiy of red noses leading to the loss of part or all of the building. It really only leaves us with the chance to have a bit of fun in red nose week, doesn't it? Mrs Readnough's daughter said she is distraught at being banned from her favourite programme. Now we could start a debate about how essential a red nose is to the whole raison d'etre of the programme or we could have some red nose fun in seeing how many non-essential items in the studio we can think of to ban. To start with and to follow popular thought, how about the chief judge?
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#5 Posted : 13 March 2007 19:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By Frank Newman how would you classify a chief judge ? Inert, irritating, noxious, toxic, environmentally polluting, combustible, inflammable, explosive or reactive ? (I'm excluding ionising radiation and leq dBa for obvious reasons) And following the earlier thread on inflammable kitchen trousers should one check the contents of the cameraman's Y-fronts ? Sorry. In place of "contents" please read "constituents" Merv
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#6 Posted : 13 March 2007 19:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By William I have tried to put a red nose on fire before, not deliberately though, it was during a drinking session when i forgot to put out my zambucka and tried to drink still lit, it burnt my nose which was red at the time due to excessive alcohol consumption. But seriously i think we have to blame the safety adviser who gave this advice, maybe put him in charge of top gear. The BBC is full of contradictions, its OK to crash into a field doing a couple of hundred miles an hour, but what those red noses as they could kill us all!
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#7 Posted : 13 March 2007 19:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Murgatroyd Red noses banned ? Good thing too. I have a hard time not punching the ones I see !
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#8 Posted : 13 March 2007 22:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Christopher Does anyone know a health and safety advisor at the BBC? Perhaps they could be approached for a comment!! Is there a union specially for TV H & S Advisors. Do these advisors do training courses which are different from the rest of us?? I wonder what sort of interview questions they get asked?
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#9 Posted : 13 March 2007 23:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By William The mind boggles what interview questions they get, when it comes to this incident the mind boggles full stop, i wonder if the included the mind boggling and people falling over due to this in the RA they did, did they have any controls in place to prevent injury from people falling over when their brains could not comprehend such a ridiculous idea? Its ridiculous, overzealous, ill informed, spoilsport, badly taught practitioners who give the media a reason to ridicule the profession to the determent of genuine unsafe situations.
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#10 Posted : 14 March 2007 07:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter MacDonald My understanding is the location for filming is a grade 2 listed building and the restrictions are based on insurance cover rather than H&S. Other items banned are paper cups, and other possible sources of ignition. If you imagine the heat generated from studio lighting and the amount of electric equipment on site the decision may be justified. For everyone above to dismiss this is a tad harsh and reactionary to the bait laid by the press.
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#11 Posted : 14 March 2007 09:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By Christopher Based on Peters arguement - I wonder if they ban hair spray!
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#12 Posted : 14 March 2007 12:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martin Mulholland FAO Peter MacDonald Thanks for the facts relating to the story - rather than the usual knee-jerk reactions that this forum seems to throw up.
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#13 Posted : 14 March 2007 12:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Horenr Is this the same broadcasting company that allows one of its presenters to openly criticized our profession and all its stands for on a regular basis? David Horner
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#14 Posted : 14 March 2007 12:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dean Stevens They should ban White noses instead. Then that Tara Palmer Tomkinson would have no chance of winning. Ray Stubbs to win for me, just for the sheer look of amazement on his face each time he gets through. Quality. Can't see the problem with the noses myself, not unless they are all stored collectively, but even then you would need hundreds and hundreds to present any real major fire hazard. It is quite funny though that the program is raising money for comic relief yet the noses are banned, i'd suggest they look for alternative surroundings next year.
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#15 Posted : 14 March 2007 13:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By BOD Ludicrous!!! Theses type of stories really make my blood boil, and is one of the many reasons why there is a general perception of H&S as OTT!! Why not ban everything that could possibly go on fire on the set - oh that would include, equipment, wiring, clothes, the set.... why not restrict the source of oxygen - yeah ban that too - infact lets just ban the whole show and every other show on TV because if the people that decided this have their way then we wont be able to leave our homes - or probably not even allowed to have homes at all. Too Dangerous! Excellent, everyone back to the cave! Lets get serious - if we as a profession dont get to grips with managing risks and reality then we'll all do ourselves out of a job and end up on one of these talents shows - joker idol!! Rant over - bad day!
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#16 Posted : 14 March 2007 14:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By RoseR Well I suppose you could ask a BBC adviser for comment, but considering the production company is ENDEMOL it would be better to ask them. But you'd know that if you'd read the article. Peter I think you are correct in saying it is an insurance reason - just easier to blame it on H&S. And despite what we know about the press making things up/distorting facts about H&S it incredible that you're all so willing to believe this at face value.
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#17 Posted : 14 March 2007 16:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Donk We could always hold a phone poll.
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#18 Posted : 14 March 2007 17:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By William ENDEMOL?? Is that not who makes big brother? I don't really know what to make of this company. Its OK to allow someones metal health to be damaged for the sake of entertainment in big brother, allow them to be subjected to racist bullying, harassment, bigotry, sometimes even violence, but when it comes to the symbol of a charity night they ban it? You would think they would put the red nose at the forefront of the show and do whatever they can to accommodate it. So this year we have red nose day with any red noses, organised by the TV company who did nothing about bullying recently! What a message that sends out. One parting thought though, should ENDEMOL not remove knives, forks or any other instrument from the big brother house which could be used to kill someone as they send 12 misfits into a house and manipulate situations to cause stress, anxiety and anger for the sake of entertainment. Lets start a campaign "PLASTIC CUTLERY FOR BIG BROTHER"
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#19 Posted : 14 March 2007 17:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Pete48 Rose, not all of us if you read my first post, I did try to offer a light-hearted response. But just a few, who cannot resist responding in a very serious manner, missed the point in my opinion. Of course there is a reason behind the decision but that is not the point. You give it credence by attempting to either justify it or attack it. I prefer the "laugh with them" approach rather than the "silly boy" response in these cases. There that's my rant for today.
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