Posted By Gary Clarkson
Grateful for some guidance on the following please;

We have a project which has a pre-con & con plan developed,the f10 submitted, PC & PS appointed etc.
The project which was due to start last month was delayed and the work on site will probably not begin until mid April.

I need to advise the project team whether the '94 or '07 regs apply ?

thank you in advance for any advice you can offer.

Regards
Gary

Posted By CFT
07 Gary; I understand that even if you file prior to this date you will transfer to 2K7 regs and supporting ACOP etc. How you get around the appointment from PS to CDM C if the former is not suitably qualified, I'm not certain,and if you have appointed a CA then clearly this latter position will not be required.

It may also be a consideration that the overall design plan may need looking at again due in the main the designers obligations to consider the on-going management of the project post completion.

It'll all come clear soon I suppose.

CFT

Posted By Davelfc
Gary, the advice so far is right, you need to start, the transition to the spirit of the new Regs, practically on the ground things won't physically change that much but will obviously benefit from suitable planning so if you where doing it right under the old Regs the information should not be much different, a lot of the info in the pre tender health and safety plan if it is quality and specific to the development should be similar to what is expected in the Information pack. I would get hold of the ACOP have a look at what is required and check the client and PS now CDM-C have included all the information that you require, if anything you have a little more time to plan and mobilise, which is what the regs are all about, if the client has not given you this and the CDM-C also then that is their look out if things go wrong for you as PC, Start to develop your Construction Phase Plan and do the required check for competency that you have hopefully been doing.

Start to conduct as a two stage assessment as per the guidelines in the Regs & ACoP

There will be a lot to take in and a bit of adjusting by the industry as it reacts to the changes and level of enforcement, I'm sure but what would be nice is if the Clients do as it says in the spirit of the Regs and that is ensure all are given time allocating resources and only going for those who demonstrate they have the organisation and arrangements in place, with the competence, will and resources, also the correct project planning skills and similar experience of that they are tendering for, right through the chain.

CFT,

My perception on the PS to CDM-C, is that those that fall below the competency levels in the ACoP have 12 months to demonstrate competence?

NEBOSH Construction
Get on the CDMC Register etc
and be able to walk the walk

CFT thanks for the advice the other day

The forum is almost the CDM forum at the moment, so the new regulations are already having an impact, it shows a lot of us care to get this right morally.

Gary if you have any specific questions please e-mail me and I will try and help out. I would not say I am the font of all knowledge but I am only to glad to help if I can, I work in high rise construction but have varied construction experience, I am like everyone else trying to get their head round this and hopefully I am getting more understanding of the requirements, I hope so I am presenting on the subject on Monday so have my head in the Regs and ACoP.

Regards

Dave

Posted By Davelfc
Gary,

Sorry attention to detail you seem having re-read the post to be Client or Clients agent.

I am sure their are some subtle changes that you could put in place again if I can help I will.

Dave

Posted By Gary Clarkson
Thanks all for your helpful responses.

(for clarity, i am a safety advisor on the client side). We are keen to embrace the spirit of the regs and want to ensure that the various stakeholders do likewise.

I have sourced a copy of the acop and am trying to work thru' the issues, so your pointers are much appreciated.

thanks again

Posted By David G C
The CDM C register is compiled by association for project safety www.aps.org.uk

To become a member you will need to satisfactorily complete the online exam this is free for existing members who have to answer 24 questions some with a yes/no answer others multi choice but for non members there is a charge.

i am pleased to say i have passed on the register.

Part of competence mentioned in the ACOP core criteria.

good luck and Regards

David

Posted By David G C
Bob

i agree there is a lot more to competence

could you clarify ICS membership i know this is mentioned in the ACOP but does this still exist

David

Posted By Mitch
See Reg' 47 of the CDM 2007

Posted By David G C
Alan

i have sent you an email but i received a bouce back, i am interested in your position if you would like to chat about it further give me call 07810 378 226

Regards

David