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Posted By S Sayers
YES - I have spent some time trawling through previous posts regarding the up and coming No Smoking ban, however, i have not managed to find the answer to my question.
So, here goes......
For one reason and another we are intending on installing the No Smoking ban as soon as possible - prior to July.
My question is this - the new no smoking signage will read 'it's against the law to smoke in these premises'. But if we introduce the policy to our company now, the signage is not entirely accurate. Is there a way of altering the wording to ensure that i wont have to change the signage again in July?
I'm not sure that I'm making myself very clear, but i hope you get the general feeling of what i mean.
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Posted By Emyr Evans
I would post the legal wording that will comply with the new legislation - in that way, you will be prepared for its instigation + you will not incur additional costs thereafter.
If you have a company no smoking policy in place (duly risk assessed & communicated to your staff etc.) then you can deal with any awkward persons in the interim by stating that your company H&S policy + risk assessments are legally binding
I'd guess that 99.9% of people will accept this.
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Posted By polo
Does anyone know how the ban will work in Wales, as they are introducing it from 2nd April?
Will work vehicles from England be subject to it?
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Posted By peter gotch
Hi S
If you introduce before July, you probably need to give employees 90 days notice of change to conditions of employment [in which case it might be much easier for you to just wait till July]
We went through this process many years ago.
Regards, Peter
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Posted By S Sayers
Had not thought of that Peter - thanks.
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Posted By MT
Polo, I'm assuming the Welsh legislation will work in the same way as the Scottish legislation. Here, it doesn't matter where the vehicle has originated, as soon as it's in Scotland, then you must obey by the Scottish law.
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Posted By Adam Worth
Sorry I can't let this one pass... it's a Friday after all :)
But what's a "NO SMOKING ban"
Does this mean I have to smoke? As a non-smoker I'm not looking forward to that.
Also my boss is going mad at the use of the word BAN it's not really a ban is it? Just a tightening of restrictions?
Sorry to disrupt the thread :)
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Posted By S Sayers
So - having established that my choice of words could have been better, I feel I can go into the weekend having learned yet another valuable lesson.
Thank crunchie it's Friday !!
And for the record - smoking SHOULD be banned :)
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Posted By Philip McAleenan
The act states
(4) In any case, premises are smoke-free only in those areas which are enclosed or substantially enclosed.
Thus if part of your premises are not enclosed or substantially enclosed, the proposed notice would be inaccurate as the law does not apply to such parts of your premises.
If you do not want smoking anywhere on the premises simply state that "Smoking is Prohibited" ("by company policy" if you like). But don't misapply the law, whatever your views on smoking,
regards, Philip
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Posted By David Bramall
S
I put posters up all over the place saying "Smokers will be shot" because it is a dirty disgusting habit - no problems since.
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Posted By Merv Newman
French experience : the ban on smoking (mind yer semantics, Merv) in work premises came in at the end of January. Except that restaurants, cafés and bars were exempted for 12 months.
Many such have "jumped the gun" and brought in immediate rules. Which seems to cause no protests whatsoever. I go outside for a quick pipe. (hope that not too many of your are really THAT fluent in French)
A major, major difference in the two sets of regulations is in the "substantially closed" clause.
My experience over the last 20 years of increasingly restrictive legislation is that smokers will passively (good word merv) accept and comply with company rules and policies and relevant legislation.
Mind you, the last time I audited a paint factory (solvent based) the heap of fag ends outside the mess room window was about a foot thick.
Merv
The French interpretation is that smoking may be allowed inside a work area in a "totally enclosed and isolated area" With "adequate ventilation and no coffee machine" (I paraphrase) Signing refers to the law and to the government "anti-tabac" programme. (free patches on the National Health)
Which shows just how much fun you can have in interpreting those boring EU regulations.
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