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#1 Posted : 28 March 2007 14:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Holland1
Are intumescent seals required on existing fire resisting doors? Building regulations part B are a little vague and the regulatory fire reform guidance states that they are normally fitted. Can anyone give me some definitive advice.

Regards

John
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#2 Posted : 28 March 2007 15:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Nigel Souster
Hi John,

I've recently had a visit from our local Fire Protection Officer, and he has stipulated that all of our fire doors need to have intumescent strips and cold smoke seals fitted. He quoted this under Article 17(1) of the Regulatory Reform (Fire Safety) Order 2005.

Hope this helps,

Nigel
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#3 Posted : 28 March 2007 15:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Nigel Souster
Sorry John,

I meant aslo to say that our fire doors are all original from when the building was built. Some of our doors had strips, some didn't.
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#4 Posted : 28 March 2007 16:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By Descarte
I thought there were specific requirements for intumescent strips being required like where a gap is present between door and frame or to ajoining doors by more than 8mm(not sure) or where it is anticipated there will be a through draught in a fire situation causing the unrestricted movement of smoke through the doors.

I will try to find exact measures and requirement and quote sources as soon as I can
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#5 Posted : 28 March 2007 16:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Descarte
What I have found: Building regs (Scotland)2.1.14

Where greater differential movement is anticipated, either in normal use or
during fire exposure, the use of a proprietary sealant or sealing system can
be used for fire-stopping of service openings and ventilating ducts. The
products should be tested to demonstrated their ability to maintain the appropriate fire resistance under the conditions appropriate to their end use.
To prevent displacement, materials used for fire-stopping should be
reinforced with, or supported by, non-combustible materials where the
unsupported span is more than 100 mm and where non-rigid materials are
used, unless they have been shown by test within their field of application to
be satisfactory.

FDAC Factcard 5 -

Fire doors play a crucial role in restricting the spread of fire and smoke. If a door is to work effectively in its
normal role the door leaf must be free to move within the frame, and in order to achieve this there must
be a gap around the perimeter. If the gap is too wide, it may compromise the door’s ability to restrict the
spread of fire and smoke.

Intumescent materials and smoke seals play a major role in restricting fire and smoke spread, and hence
reducing incidences of death and injury and reducing property damage.

The Building Regulations indicate where you need fire doors and that these would need intumescent seals.
But they also indicate those situations where a fire door may also have to prevent smoke leakage, and in
those situations a smoke seal must be fitted. You can buy intumescent seals that combine a smoke seal or
you can fit two separate seals - a fire seal and a separate smoke seal. Fire doors are designated by their
required period of fire resistance; FD30, FD60, FD90 and FD120.

The gap between the door leaf and the frame must be
suitable for the intumescent seal fitted. In general, the gap
should not exceed 3mm. To facilitate the checking of this
gap on site, the BWF-CERTIFIRE Fire Door & Doorset
Scheme has produced a gap tester which can be used for
this purpose.
The bwfgaptester is available free of charge from the BWF.

Both documents are available to download for free I recommend reading the FDAC Factcard in full here:

http://www.bwf.org.uk/CE...Fact%20Card%20No%205.pdf
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#6 Posted : 28 March 2007 19:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By shaun mckeever
Why are you asking - is it for new build, refurbishment or as a result of a risk assessment?
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#7 Posted : 29 March 2007 08:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Holland1
The reason that I am asking is following a risk assessment. The building was constructed in 1987 and has in recent years been given a fire certificate. The response from Descarte re: FDAC Factcard 5 - "The Building Regulations indicate where you need fire doors and that these would need intumescent seals" doesn't appear in the regulatory fire reform guidance or the regulations. I would be more inclined to be persuaded by article 17 (1). Thanks anyway for the responses so far.

Regards
John
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#8 Posted : 29 March 2007 13:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By shaun mckeever
If this is following a fire risk assessment then it should not matter what the building regulations say. You have to determine if the door provides an adequate seal between the room and the protected route or other area being protected.

The test for fire doors changed some years ago so that a positive pressure was put on the side where the fire would be. The positive pressure demonstrated that the typical 1" door stop did not adequately prevent smoke and other combustion products spreading to adjacent spaces. This is why the fire door standards have changed.

Generally fire doors should have a brush seal or rubber blade that seals the gap between the door edge and the frame. The door should be fitted with an intumescent strip that expands when exposed to heat (about 150C). The gap between the door edge and frame should not exceed 4mm so that the intumescent strip can seal the gap when expanded. The bottom edge of the door should not generally exceed 10mm.
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