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#1 Posted : 02 April 2007 10:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian Johnson To aid our existing induction training on what to do in the event of a fire we are looking for a DVD on the use of extinguishers but only to aid escape. We have had a look at a couple of DVD's already but they are aimed at fighting fires if it is safe to do so to stop property damage- which isn't the message we want to send to our staff. If anyone can help I would appreciate it. Ian
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#2 Posted : 02 April 2007 21:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By shaun mckeever Ian I can't help you with the DVD's you might be looking for. I assume you have looked at the ones produced by the FPA. I am intrigued as to why you do not want to promote property protection. I understand concerns that people might have about staff putting themselves at risk and so should not tackle fires regardless. But I think sometimes we have to apply a little bit of common sense. In the majority of cases fires begin with a tiny flame. Simply stamping on the flame would be enough to put it out e.g. a lighted cigarette dropped on the floor. Over time the flame will grow bigger depending on the fuel available and I agree that there must be a point reached where you have to turn your back on it and walk away. But to say to your staff 'do not tackle any fire' in my view is not the best way. Think of the consequences. If left unchecked the fire will grow and in a very short time may involve an entire room. Temperatures may be at a point when flashover will occur. It might be about this time that the fire service arrive. Should they now risk their lives to tackle a fire that may have been nipped in the bud in its incipient stages? Tomorrow, after the fire, will the staff have a job to come back to? I do undertsand the concerns you may have but I think a carte blanche 'do not tackle any fire' approach is not the best message to send your staff.
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#3 Posted : 04 April 2007 09:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian Johnson Thanks for the feedback. As a company we have taken the decision that employee safety is the most important issue where fire is concerned. Due to high staff turnover in our stores it would be difficult and would be very costly to ensure that all employees receive the thorough practical training in how to tackle a fire that they would need to do it properly and without putting fellow employees or the public at further danger. Our stores are low risk and on the occasion that a fire has occurred we have always ensured our employees are kept in work.
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#4 Posted : 18 April 2007 22:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By TBC Continuity of business in part of the RRO 2005
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#5 Posted : 19 April 2007 14:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By shaun mckeever ?
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#6 Posted : 19 April 2007 18:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By TBC Should know better than respond when I'm tired. I of course refer to part of the Reg Reform Fire Safety Order 2006 which suggests that we should consider business continuity - buildings should not be allowed to burn down.
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#7 Posted : 19 April 2007 19:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By pluto Most enforcing authorities will not accept a risk assessment which says that no extinguishers will be provided. The government guidance says that extinguishers should be provided and used, (by trained employees) to assist in reducing the risk to others in the premises. That is, by stopping the small fire becoming larger you actively protect others in the premises. Don't be fooled by people telling you that expensive training is required. One or two trained fire marshalls should be able to instruct other employees on how to use an extinguisher, (pull pin, squeeze and point)and when it is no longer safe to do so. Stop sheltering behind spurious H & S claims and take just a little responsibility.
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