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Posted By BOD
Hi,
Can someone please clarify for me should gas cylinders be stored and transported in a vertical position?
I have read The Carriage of Dangerous Goods and Use of Transportable Pressure Equipment Regs 2004, and it does not specify this as a requirement.
Many thanks
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Posted By CFT
Bod
You will find that the BCGA (British Compressed Gasses Association) and the two sets of regs you have mentioned with INDG 308 thrown in for good measure all will say:
'Pressurised gas containers should always be stored and transported in an upright position' and here comes the get out clause if you should need it. 'unless the manufacturer stipulates it'.(I have not come across one yet.)
For handling purposes horizontal loading/unloading is generally deemed acceptable.
CFT
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Posted By Pete48
The main suppliers, not your local merchant supplier, web sites for these industrial gases are always very good and packed full of free information about their products, safe handling, storage and transportation.
If you have completed a risk assessment without reference to these sites or access to specialised technical guidance, there is a strong possibility that your assessments may be seriously off the point.
I am not saying you need an expert or to be one, just to check out the detail on those websites: these guys are the experts and they give you advice on-line and for free!!
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Posted By Phil Grace
Some gases revert to the liquid state under pressure. If these are stored/transported horizontally there is the risk of liquid becoming entrapped in the valve mechanism. This could have serious consequences if the small quantity of liquid were to enter the gas piping when the cylinder valve were opened. With expansion from liquid to gas resulting in a volume increase of several hundred times the gas piping/apparatus would be "overloaded".
I'm talking of LPG type gases - as used by caravanners etc. I'm still amazed how many transport the cylinders they use for the caravan and/or BBQ in a horizontal position. I just hope they allow sufficient time for any trapped liquid to drain down before they use them...!
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Posted By BOD
Folks,
Thanks for the responses!
GT in future if thats the best answer you can give, maybe it would be better keeping it to yourself!
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Posted By holmezy
Phil and all,
I would agree that all gas cylinders should be stored and transported in the upright position, however, your comment re LPG etc has given me a thought.
What about forklift trucks that are powered by LPG that all have the bootle strapped in the horizontal position on the counter weight end of the truck?
Not being awkward just interested?
Holmezy
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Posted By Pete48
Holmezy. You probably have LTO bottles. Liquid take off. Designed to be used in the way you describe.
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