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#1 Posted : 03 April 2007 08:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By DaveT Does anybody konw where I can locate the details of the safe handling and carriage of Lead acid batteries for disposal. I have looked at previous threads but cannot find any specific information on whether there is set laid down legislation. I am aware that batteries are classed as hazardous waste. We operate in the waste management industry and collect fly tipped batteries loose on the backs of transit vehicles. We also collect litter and although the batteries would be taken off the vehicle prior to landfill would travel mixed on the vehicle bed and be manually handled. My concern is: We are unaware of the charge state of the batteries and if, (i am being told a big if) the battery shifts and tips could a) spill chemical solution b) short out and possibly spark causing fire/explosion What is the minimum PPE required? Should the batteries be bunded/contained for collection? I am due to report back to a management meeting on this, on Thursday PM and would be grateful if anybody could provide anything concrete on this. Thanks in anticipation DAVE
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#2 Posted : 03 April 2007 09:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Youel you may need to be licenced to carry such waste therefore check that requirement first with the Environmental Agency as it may be cheaper and quicker in the long run to get in specialist contractors as against DIY
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#3 Posted : 03 April 2007 09:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By CFT Correct; The carrier who collects the scrap must be registered with the Environment Agency as a carrier of controlled waste. Lead acid batteries are listed on the Hazardous Waste List as entry 160601. Lead acid batteries are classified as Special Waste. Agree with Bob unless you are already a specialist carrier. CFT
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#4 Posted : 03 April 2007 09:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Keith Oakes Dave, Used lead acid storage batteries are no longer subject to the Carriage of dangerous goods/ADR (Special provision 598) providing: - Their cases are undamaged; - They are secured in such a way that they cannot leak, slip, fall or be damaged, e.g by stacking on pallets; - There are no dangerous traces of alkalis or acid on the outside of the articles; - They are protected against short circuits. As a business we provide enclosed bunded plastic containers specifically designed to store and carry batteries. There a numerous suppliers available. If you do not comly with the above requirements then you may well fall within the dangerous goods legislation requirements and all that entails. PPE required would include full face mask, rubber gloves and rubber apron (if splashing could be expected). Access to washing/flushing facilities is important for rapid treatment of acid or alkali splashes on the skin. Hope this helps. Keith
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#5 Posted : 03 April 2007 09:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By DaveT Bob, We are registered waste carriers as the local authority. Keith, in response to your reply can you point me to where the information you state comes from in legislative form, I will need to back up any statements i make with the relevant law/legislation.
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#6 Posted : 03 April 2007 10:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Keith Oakes Dave, I will try to keep it short as there is a mass of information involved as cross referencing to ADR is required, so here goes. Designation - Batteries wet filled with acid, electric storage - UN2794. Batteries wet filled with alkali, electric storage - UN2795. The Carriage of Dangerous Goods and Use of Transportable Pressure Equipment Regulations 2004, Part 2 - Requirements of ADR and RID, Section 17(1) The above refers you to ADR - International carriage. Para 3.2.1 - Table A Column 6 - Special provisions - Para 3.3. Special provision 598 explains the exemption as described in my previous response. Just a note, I agree fully with the previous responses regarding special waste licensing requirements. Hope I have explained it adequately. If you require any further info provide your contact details and we can discuss if you wish. Regards Keith
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#7 Posted : 03 April 2007 13:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Youel I appreciate that you may be a local council. However I have just reviewed some council licences etc and found ALL of them to be wrong as well as out of date additionally; whilst not wanting to be seen as 'picky'; why don't you ask your 'competent' person - as the councils I have audited have no competent persons in place; just some people who happen to have the job [which brings kudos] & or have been tasked with appraising the situation without the kudos
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#8 Posted : 04 April 2007 12:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman Dave, I know a company that recycles the batteries Send me an e-mail and I'll give you a contact name Merv
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