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#1 Posted : 18 April 2007 19:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Murgatroyd And why do people regard H&S as a synonym for ridiculous ? http://www.motorcyclenew...annedbikes/?&R=EPI-90552
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#2 Posted : 18 April 2007 21:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman John, without looking up the stats, you can do that, riding a motorbike exposes you to something like six times the mortality rate. sorry, but this is from memory, not official. So, a company which wishes to reduce it's exposure to fatal injury is quite within it's rights to ban or to control M/C travel. And I agree. When you see messengers who MUST deliver a package 100 miles away within the hour then they MUST exceed the speed / safe limits. But, in my humble opinion, this is not a direct problem for the M/C rider. The contractual parties are directly responsible for any ensuing accident. Merv
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#3 Posted : 18 April 2007 21:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jay Joshi The article gives a story, but the additional comments by readers are such that it is clear that they have not understood the article! Johnson Controls have not banned the use of motorcycles for commuting from & to work, but banned it for use on company business. Compared to cars, riding a motorcyles is more hazardous & risky, therefore I am not surprised at Johnson Controls decision regarding their "duty of care"
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#4 Posted : 18 April 2007 21:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Pete48 On yer bike John :) "Main UK results for 2005 show that the number of motorcyclists killed decreased by 3 per cent compared to 2004. Despite this welcome drop in casualty figures, motorcycles last year represented 1% of road traffic but accounted for 18% of all fatalities. Motorcycle casualty figures remain high and with 569 motorcyclists killed and 5,939 motorcyclists seriously injured last year, there is no room for complacency." from thinkroadsafety. This company obviously wants to avoid that increased risk, not saying it is unsafe or dangerous, just that for them it is an unnecessary or unacceptable risk. It is qualified as only relating to work activity. Of course it might be a creeping return to paternalism in large-multi nationals but even that was not always to the detriment of company or individual employee.
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#5 Posted : 19 April 2007 09:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By J Knight I remember my ex-boss being banned from using his m/c for work by our then employer purely because it didn't fit with what they thought his image should be, John
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#6 Posted : 19 April 2007 09:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andrew Meiklejohn I hope for that they have provided an alternative mode of tranpsort for the members of staff who need to travel for work purposes?
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#7 Posted : 19 April 2007 19:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Murgatroyd I just keep wondering if they ever asked if their employees were insured to drive their bikes on business. My bike policies are specific "to and from a place of work". Even more, most insurers do not insure travel to/from a second/part-time job. In fact, a quick on-line check shows that my main insurer will not insure use of either of my m/cycles for use in a job without massive premium increase. Both my vans are insured "carriage of own goods". The bikes, however, will cost me another arm/leg to insure for use in work. The price will rise from £143.00 per year to £720.00 per year for despatching. So, maybe there is more to the story than meets the eye.
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#8 Posted : 20 April 2007 10:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By DavidW the company are simply taking the easy route to avoid a potential problem. Without a doubt, motorcycles carry a higher risk than driving cars but also have significant advantages even without the suicidal tactics of some dispatch riders. Surely a better approach would have been to offer training at reduced rates or free. Workplace transport is one area very few companies pay much attention to training, yet it is possibly some companies biggest area of risk. If riden properly there is no reason bikes shouldn't be used for work transport. Being self employed and working in and around London I use mine almost every day. It's an efficient, effective means of transport and much more fun than being stuck in a "cage" all day. Regarding insurance, my insurance company cover my bike for busines use free of charge but that does exclude dispatch riding.
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#9 Posted : 20 April 2007 16:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Shillabeer Have a look at the tipex posting and you will see.
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