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#1 Posted : 20 April 2007 09:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By keithb Morning everyone. Does anyone work in the education sector? A colleague of mine is concerned with regards his daughters and the use of electrical equipment in their school. It appears that the children are allowed to bring electrical items such as telephone chargers and hair straighteners into school and plug them into electrical sockets. Now not withstanding the fact that the teachers are allowing this in the first place, there does not seem to be any provision in place to check whether the items are electrically safe. Are there any regulations that should be adhered to specifically regarding schools are they just regarded as a similar risk as offices and other low risk workplaces? Any comments would be appreciated.
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#2 Posted : 20 April 2007 09:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By Glyn Atkinson Not working in that sector, but from a common sense point of view as a parent, I would expect that some written procedure was in place that had been agreed between headteacher and the board of governors relating to the safety aspect of electrical items within schools. The local authority - ie town council - should also have a health and safety team who deal with risk assessments, and help with this type of problem within school areas. They would give expert information and good practice guidance on provision of a safe system for electrical supplies and use of equipment by children on school premises - if allowed at all ?? By the way, since when did schools become bespoke fashion houses - hair straighteners for God's sake ?? I remember being ostracised for putting "Whiter Shade of Pale" on the grammar school on / stage record player as a sixth form pupil attempt at beefing up the assembly introduction music. Only time that the head ever ran to my knowledge ! Happy days !!
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#3 Posted : 20 April 2007 09:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By N Smith I work in a FE College. We do not allow students to bring electrical equipment on to site. If staff bring equipment onto site it must be PAT tested before it is used. Any untested equipment is removed by my staff.
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#4 Posted : 20 April 2007 10:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Bruce Have to be honest don't really see mobiles being a big issue as they have sealed plugs and are replaced that often that it would be unlikely that the chargers would be in a poor state. Straighteners however, are infinately more dangerous from the possiblity of being left on and causing burns / fire in addition to the shock hazard. Beyond the H&S issues I would also think that the school's insurance policies would have conditions relating to PAT testing intervals and use of electrical equipment and thus the school would want to limit their uninsured exposure.
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#5 Posted : 20 April 2007 11:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By steve e ashton If the school is residential - then I imagine it would be almost impossible to prohibit things like straighteners and hair driers. My daughter certainly will not spend a night away anywhere without her own personal kit. Her sister was happiest with a toothbrush and a clean set of smalls. Or if the school offers swimming lessons - then a lot of young girls would consider it essential to properly treat their coiffures when they get changed. If the school has thought about the risks they may have installed ELCB or similar on all supplies to residential or changing areas - and then concluded that the risks from electric shock are acceptably low. Certainly this option would be less administrative hassle (and probably higher reliability) than trying to call in all equipment for testing at the start of term. Without knowing further detail - the school may be doing all it needs to? Steve
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#6 Posted : 20 April 2007 12:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By Exdeeps Keith, Looking at this as a school governor I am surprised to say the least that pupils are allowed phones, chargers or any other electrical equipment in school (Unless, as previously stated it is a residential school) My advise would be to approach the school office and request to see the policy on "use of private electrical equipment on school property by pupils" and then follow that up with a request for a copy of the school complaints policy (Which the school is legally required to provide on request) Then see how fast things are resolved or follow the complaints procedure exactly as written to avoid prevarication by the Head teacher and Governing Body, Jim
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#7 Posted : 20 April 2007 15:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter I sincerely hope this is with reference to residential accommodation. I seem to recall from my school days that we went there to be educated. Texting/chatting and hair styling wasn't on the curriculum then.The weight of books I had to carry back & forth everyday didn't leave much room for electrical accessories! Happy days.
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#8 Posted : 20 April 2007 17:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By keithb Thanks for your help everyone. Believe it or not, the school in question is not residential and apparently has a very good reputation. I would love to be a fly on the wall when my colleague attends his meeting with them next week.
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#9 Posted : 21 April 2007 00:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Taylor If the electrical items are being used for work activity in the school (which is a workplace) they will be subject to the usual requirements for work equipment and electricity at work (eg testing). If they are for non-work activity (eg students personal use) the school will need to be exercising adequate control to ensure that it is safe and without risk so far as is reasonably practicable. A local policy and procedure would be needed to this end. In my experience a greater electrical risk in schools from introduced electrical items is by teachers, technicians and other staff who bring in items for their personal use, private experiments or jobs, demonstration purposes or as props in school plays.
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