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Posted By sian
Hello
Does anyone know where I can find information regarding distance of fire assembly points from buildings, the building in question is a college establishment.
Thanks
Sian
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Posted By TBC
Some say as far away as the height of the building. I think this assumes that the worst case would be that the building collapses.
So much depends on checking out all the things involved here:
the position of the buildings
the general wind direction
numbers of employees involved - is the area large enough for the numbers of people
what business is carried out in the premises – think of LPG, storage tanks, electrical substations, vehicle routes etc.
allows people to move directly away from the building and to safety.
Other things to consider is the approach to the building for the Fire and Rescue services, location of Fire Hydrants and where to retreat to if further distance is required (by this time the police (unlikely) may be available to help or fire marshalls with hi-vis).
Good luck
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Posted By TBC
Forgot to mention that a 'Fire Assembly' point may not be far enough away if your company was to become the victim of a bomb explosion. That would possibly mean being further away from the building - so also take that into consideration.
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Posted By Alan Haynes
I'd always recommend that the Fire Assembly Points are not used for bomb warnings - all to easy to find out their location and leave a device at the FAP as well as, or instead of, in the building.
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Posted By sian
Hi
Thankyou for your input very helpfull indeed, do you have any idea where I might find any guidance atall for this subject to back my case up.
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Posted By Phillip
Remember an assembly point for a bomb may need to be in a different location to fire assembly point as protection from glass & missiles etc is required.
For fire - best to assemble upwind. If the distance is greater than 50m then thermal radiation should not be at harmful levels.
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Posted By TBC
I have never found it written down as to where or how to decide on an assembly point it's up to the responsible person or committee to decide.
On the point about bomb threats - It could just be as easy to phone or raise the Fire Alarm and leave a bomb at the assembly point. So an assembly point is just that - devious people will find a way or do we need a secret bomb threat assembly area?
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Posted By GT
Good Afternoon Sian,
In deciding where you may allocate points of assembly I suppose depends on several factors that you need to consider along with the other good points in the forum.
1. The number of escape routes from the building or buildings.
2. The largest number of people that can be reasonably envisaged to use these areas if driven from normal escape route exit by fire.
3. Is the assembly point a reasonable safe haven, what are the surrounding risks, swimming pools, open trenches, and what if the fire is uncontrolled.
4. Do personnel have to cross roads / TRAFFIC ROUTES etc to get to the assembly points
5. Can all personnel from all assembly points if need be progress away from the area without endangering themselves.
6. Consider the worst case scenario and the seasons of the year they maybe in use, and how the weather may affect access to the assembly point.
Trust this helps you
GT
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Posted By Calum Clark
A while ago I asked our local fire and rescue service how far away an assembly point should be. they asked other brigades across the country and various opinions came back. The upshot was there seems to be no definitive answer.
However, if you follow the advice of the previous posters then you won't go far wrong.
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Posted By anon1234
GT has posted some good points to consider when selecting an assembly point.
Also remember that the assembly point is the intial point of assembly in case of fire evacuation and therefore only needs to be a nominal diatance from teh building to make it a place of relative safety - if the incident escalates you can always decamp to another location.
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Posted By Liz saville
As far as I am aware an Emergency Assembly Point for a building should be sufficiently far from its associated building to ensure that those congregating at the Assembly point are at a safe distance from the effects of a fire in the building (e.g. heat, flying glass and showering debris), and, do not impede the access to the building by the emergency services.
The Home Office also recommends that an Assembly Point should be at least 200 metres from the building itself.
I hope this helps
Liz Saville
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Posted By Steve Cartwright
Some very interesting responses.
Not sure about not going to assembly point if there was a bomb threat. Where would you go?
Imagine you've got a 200 people in a call centre, you tell them not to panic and leave the building in an orderly fashion, but don't go to the assembly point?
As for not having it down wind, well that's alright if you can control it. The wind that is.
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Posted By shaun mckeever
Response to a bomb threat is significantly different from that for a fire. For a bomb threat you should have four designated assembly points located roughly N E W and S and aprroximately 500m from the building.
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