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#1 Posted : 05 May 2007 08:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By pluto
Sorry if this subject has been raised before but I could not find it via the search facility.
If I am employed as a H&S Inspector by a Local Authority, does this prevent me working on a consultancy/advisory basis in other geographical areas?
There are clearly 'potential' conflict of interest issues but should these, if they arise, be dealt with through existing employment routes rather than the blanket prevention of additional income generation?
Many professions, not least the legal business work with 'Chinese walls' preventing such issues arising, (in theory at least) between partners.
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#2 Posted : 05 May 2007 10:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By TBC
Hi 'pluto'

I think you're too far away to have a conflict of interest with us mere earthlings.
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#3 Posted : 05 May 2007 12:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter Leese
I suspect this to be a tendril reaching from out there to it knows not where.
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#4 Posted : 05 May 2007 19:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alan Nicholls
I think your barking up the wrong tree.
Pun intended.

Regards Alan N
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#5 Posted : 05 May 2007 20:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By pluto
Thank you for your comments. Who says H & S practioners can't do other jobs. What the going rate for sages?
I take it that no-one has ever been tempted then?
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#6 Posted : 05 May 2007 21:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman
Pluto,

check your employment contract. And your ethics. (comparing latter to those of local councillors)

Actually, if you know your job and fancy a thrill you could just resign and go independant. It could pay more, be more fun and ensure more "gardening leave"

Price of sages ? Dry sage comes in a small jar from Sainsbury's at about a pound a pop. If you really want to know the price of sages then I would go for the officinalis and a perpura. Your local gardening center will oblige.

Both are very good with pork chops and I do a great chicken breast with sage (salvia officinalis) wrapped in Italian air-dried ham.

Most sages that I know of are usually quite dry. (maybe cynical is a better word)

Going serious, when you are starting out and trying to build a client base then you could go for £5-600 per day. If you have at least some decent experience/qualifications.

(remember you do not qualify as a sage until you have at least 20 years in the job and totally grey hair) (or very little left of any colour) .

Once you've got the rep then you could double that. But don't count on more than 100 paid days per year.

One year I did nearly double that at the top rate and it was killing. No family or social life. I've backed off a bit over the last two years and spread out the jobs.

Last two weeks : full time including weekend and night shifts. 500 miles from home and one phone call home per day.

Next week : catching up on the weeding. And lunch with the all-girls choir. yeah.

Merv

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#7 Posted : 05 May 2007 22:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By TBC
Like Merv says check your contract of employment. I would imagine as with most employed positions that you will have to declare it to your current employer and don't forget the the tax man.

It may be your chance to jump the fence and go self employed so go for it and good luck.

Hey you appreciate a bit of fun so you must be an ok guy.
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#8 Posted : 06 May 2007 02:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By Rob T
Interesting point! The majority of the HSE that I have met have been arrogant and disruptive in many areas but the one's who have actually worked in business beforehand have been fine (unless they have had an axe to grind). That said the exec have a duty to uphold the law and as such sometimes forget the realities of life and work.

To be paid an extra income for giving advice privately should be a no-no as you are paid to deal with the legal issues. This should never be the main driver of a company as the personal and moral side should take a pecedent. Advice from the HSE on a specific point would be welcome but as everybody knows this is very difficult to attain.
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#9 Posted : 06 May 2007 02:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Rob T
Sorry missread your your question - didn't realise you were LA not HSE (but funnily enough probably more of that applies because most LA EHO's aren't qualified to NEBOSH levels!)
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#10 Posted : 06 May 2007 08:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By pluto
Phew, this is hard work, sweating, and so far from the sun!

The question really is...do LA inspectors, with their duty to enforce in their areas actually carry out private work in other LA areas? Leaving the issues of personal morality, competence, family life and NEBOSH aside, do most contracts with their primary employer expressly forbid it, (and is this enforced)?
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#11 Posted : 06 May 2007 10:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter Leese
Of course they do, it's human nature. We have a couple of EHOs who do occasional work for us in London. It's OK as long as they work outside their own Borough.

However, the successful ones are those who are able to leave the penchant for wordy documentation/submissions behind and who are able to move into the real world where production is all, and dancing on pin heads is limited to the social scene only.
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#12 Posted : 06 May 2007 10:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter Leese
Apologies Adrian, that phrase has caught my imagination.
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#13 Posted : 07 May 2007 08:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian G Hutchings
Pluto

Do you work part-time or are you looking to work evening and weekends? I assume that you are not looking to squeeze work in when being paid by your current employer?

If it is just more money that you want you could look for a better paid job. Or as mentioned earlier start working freelance full time.


Good luck

Ian
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