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#1 Posted : 09 May 2007 10:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By Helen C Can anyone help me out with the name of a training company that do PTS Courses? I am based in Warrington, North Cheshire. Cheers
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#2 Posted : 09 May 2007 12:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter On the assumption your talking about rail track safety permits, try http://www.ncca-sentinel.co.uk/ Should be a list of providers there.
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#3 Posted : 09 May 2007 12:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Philip Roberts Helen, MDA Rail In Warrington run PTS courses. I use them for Safety critical work assessor training as we do our PTS courses in house. They can be contacted on 01928 75567 or www.millbank.com and follow the training links, best regards Phil
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#4 Posted : 09 May 2007 12:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Philip Roberts Helen, Sorry that should have read MDA Rail in Runcorn, which is not very far from Warrington, best regards Phil
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#5 Posted : 09 May 2007 13:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By john grady Helen, If this is for yourself then you will require a sponsor for PTS Training. JGY
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#6 Posted : 09 May 2007 14:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Matt Wright Helen If you email me directly with anymore questions on any of this i'll help you out. If it's just a training company you need then MDA are good. I've also used Trackline Training before in Salford. I think Catalis have somewhere up your way too. MW
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#7 Posted : 09 May 2007 15:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Helen C Sorry, me being thick again - what is a sponsor, why do I need one and where can I get one??? Cheers
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#8 Posted : 09 May 2007 15:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian Mitchell Hi. The idea of a PTS is to let you work on the Network Rail Infrastructure. Obviously, you need a purpose to go 'on or near the line'. As this is work-related your 'sponsor' is usually the company you work for (but not always). Otherwise you could get a PTS to go train spotting or something like that!!
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#9 Posted : 09 May 2007 15:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian Mitchell Me again - for example, I work for a company that carries out structural repairs to the railway. As their QHSE Manager I need to go on to the infrastructure to do audits etc. Hence they put me on a PTS course. The PTS does not permit me to enter rail infrastructure without a valid reason and is only valid on my company's worksites. The Personal Track Safety course (2 days) is simply a way of the railway ensuring that all companies who supply staff only supply staff that have basic track awareness. (It is an eye-opener and makes you realise the dangers)
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#10 Posted : 09 May 2007 15:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By Helen C Thanks Ian, In a previous life I actually worked on the railways and did my PTS myself. Just didn't realise that you needed a sponsor. I am trying to get three of my guys trained for some work we may have coming up, so getting our client or our own company to sponsor us will not be a problem. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Helen
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#11 Posted : 09 May 2007 15:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kevin Maguire There is the 2 day PTS and also a 5 Day Track Induction Course, If your guys are going to be working in the 4 FOOT (between the 2 running rails they will need the full 7-10 Day course.
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#12 Posted : 09 May 2007 15:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Caboche To act as a sponsor for Personal Track Safety (PTS) - and more highly qualified personnel such as COSS, the company undertaking the sponsorship needs to have undertaken and passed an audit by the Link Up organisation. This shows that the company has the minimum requirements in place to meet network rail's standards in Safety, Health, Environment and Quality. It also includes other subjects such as who provides your organisation's safety advice in regard to rail matters and how you manage competency amongst other things. You cannot act as a sponsor until you have passed the audit. If you intend to go for link up accreditation, get some specialist advice - it is a complicated process and a lot of company management systems that you may currently have may not meet Network Rail requirements which are quite onerous. The Link Up Audit system is (if I recall correctly) currently undergoing changes making it more suitable for the spheres in which contractor companies operate, so make sure which audit protocols you will have to satisfy.
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#13 Posted : 09 May 2007 15:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Caboche Kevin, you only need to undertake the Track Induction Course if the work that you are carrying out will affect the geometry of the Permanent Way - it is perfectly possible to undertake work in the 4 foot such as structural inspections, weed spraying or litter picking and only have a 2 day PTS. Only persons involved in track relaying, UTXs or ballast shovelling need to undertake the TIC
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#14 Posted : 09 May 2007 21:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By Helen C thanks everyone - I am now sorted. Cheers
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