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#1 Posted : 11 May 2007 06:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By RS
Does anyone have some good practical advice on protecting nightclub employees from noise induced hearing loss? The difficulties in enforcing the wearing of hearing protection, the inability to remove the source of noise and the need for bar staff to be able to hear customers when placing drinks orders.
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#2 Posted : 11 May 2007 07:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By TBC
One of the main things about noise problems is the need for reduction at source. So you have a fairly simple answer - turn it down. It doesn't have to give you earache and give you that ringing noise in your ear all night that you can't get to sleep. Or am I getting too old?
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#3 Posted : 11 May 2007 08:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gff
I used to work in a night club back in the good old days.

We had the option of using foam ear plugs worked a tread cheap as chips comfortable and clean. they had the added benefit that you could hear people talking to you better with them than without and you could hear your radio earpiece better too which improved security comms.

As for turning it down, right! what ever
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#4 Posted : 11 May 2007 08:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By ChrisB
Turn it down!
Redirect the speakers.
Rotate staff in "hot spots".
Accoustic line to back bars>
PPE - not very practical though!

We have 700 clubs and bars on our books, all of whom are now starting to worry about this, and we too are struggling to come up with more than the above.

Feel free to contact me direct if you wish to discuss further.
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#5 Posted : 11 May 2007 08:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gff
Forgot to mention once you supply them to a few folk to try them out every one wants them. When you get home and get to sleep without the ringing in your ears you soon make a point of wearing them all the time.

Most people would wear them at the peak point of the night when the place is bouncing, the music is up cause the crown rabble needs to be drowned out this last about 2 or three ours then it starts to quieten down.

Security staff can be moved around to help reduce the length of exposure eg from door to floor to other areas like cash desk cloak room etc and bar staff can also be move around too more so if it is a bigger club.

If you offer plugs the worst that could happen is that no one wears them then try something else. I found that selling it on the basis of a good nights (day?) sleep and being able to hear folk over the rabble helps. Remember in these environments people scream down you ear at close range making the problem worse
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#6 Posted : 11 May 2007 08:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By garyh
Surely the concept of "dose" is relevant also? I once worked in a nightclub and some workers were full time - some worked 1 night, some 2 nights per week, some 4 hours, some 3 and so on.

I would look at INDIVIDUAL exposure on this (crude) basis, also noise levels before launching into control measures.

Also note that humans absorb noise - hence you crank up the sound system when the place is full but the noise levels may not go up much.

Finally a good sound engineer is vital! Balance of bass, mid treble - and volume correct, not too high, not too low.

Turn down noise levels - and lose punters I'm afraid.
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#7 Posted : 11 May 2007 09:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By TBC
Leave the levels as they are and lose punters and staff their hearing for good!
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#8 Posted : 11 May 2007 11:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By tez
One asks the question the regs have been around already for a fair few years-have you or should you not have done something about this a long time ago?

Organisations like BEDA can give advice.

Solutions like turning the music down at the bar and relocation/redirecting speakers to the dance area DOES work and should not affect the trade.

If limiters are installed at the DJ area make sure the DJ or the Manager cannot overide them.

If anything takings can be improved because the staff can actually hear the order
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