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#1 Posted : 15 May 2007 14:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By david lycett
I have recently took over h & s in a pallet recycling yard.I have a fire audit in a week or so and was wondering if anyone had any guidance on distantces when it comes to fire breaks where pallets are stored.
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#2 Posted : 15 May 2007 15:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman
I was advised some years ago by an insurance assessor that combustible materials, specifically palettes, should not be stored within 50 feet (call it 15 meters) of a building.

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#3 Posted : 15 May 2007 15:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By MetalMan
Can I jump in on this one?

What about when they are stored inside a building? Say a factory, as there is nowhere else to store them?

Thanks
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#4 Posted : 15 May 2007 16:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve Cartwright
We were recently audited by our insurance company. The auditor recommended that we should store pallets at least 10 meters away from the buildings and included it in his report, even after me telling him and seeing it for himself that it was not practicable to do so because of the layout of the buildings and traffic routes. Thankfully our insurance broker explained to the insurance company that it was not practicable. We store pallets approximately 1 to 1.5 meters away from the buidings.

They are ok with this.
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#5 Posted : 15 May 2007 17:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman
Metal,

Internal storage should be "as low as reasonably practical"

had a discussion with a warehouse manager about a month ago. They lease the building and landlord will not allow any storage outside. (spoil the look of the building)

So they had a couple of hundred palettes taking up valuable inside space (for which they pay the landlord by the square meter)
We discussed ways of reduce the fireload to the building ; my frequent disposal/removal seems to be the only option.

Merv
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#6 Posted : 15 May 2007 20:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alan Nicholls
I have been quoted 50 feet as distance required.

If you have limited space to store pallets in the yard, ensure your delivery drivers take pallet for pallet on delivery. This will help keep the numbers down.

With regard to storage close to the building; does this not give access to the building via the roof? Obviously this would be for single stories only. Insurance company may take a dim view of this on security grounds.

Regards Alan N
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#7 Posted : 16 May 2007 08:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ashley Wood
Metalman, the reason concerns exist about pallet storage close to building is Arson. There are so many arson reports involving pallets at the moment. If the pallets are in the building then the risk from external arson is reduced, however, the fire load inside the building goes 'sky high'. Check with your insurer that you are covered, make sure that escape routes are wide enough, look at sprinkler protection (if you can afford it). Regarding distance from a building, I always go with 15 meters.
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