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#1 Posted : 15 May 2007 22:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jon Paul
After reading another post on this forum about the excess charged for company vehicles that had been involved in accidents of any kind I have been toying with the idea of holding an annual safe driving competition between several depots and was wondering if anyone else had ran or considered this?

My initial thoughts would be to have a team from each depot of about 6 people which would consist of at least one manager, one lady and four others.

Start off on a morning with maybe 6 different stands which could include things like;

1. Changing a tyre (swopping rear tyres over, safely of course)
2. Highway code test
3. Skid car (always enjoyable for all)
4. First aid
5. Speed test (seen this done before, local police come down with a speed camera and you block out the speedo with tape and the driver has to pass between a point at exactly 30 mph for example with penalties for each mph they are over or under)
6. Obstacle course (using cones)

This list is not definate and I am open to other ideas though.

Then after all teams have gone through the mornings activities a prize giving presentation by the MD with a barbeque afterwards, I am planning for a Summer event.

I would like this to be an annual safe driving event within the company and would appreciate your comments or views.

John

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#2 Posted : 16 May 2007 07:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian P
Hi John

I recently found this site for stopping distances:
http://www.stoppingdistances.org.uk/

Could be useful as a visual aid and it's free as well which is always a bonus
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#3 Posted : 16 May 2007 09:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve Derby
I'm going back a few years (30) and I recall my father used to compete in such competitions for the Royal Mail(still the Post Office then of course). From memory these involved s road drive with and examiner and an obstacle course. I've no idea whether such competitions are still running. I'm pretty sure it was a national competition.
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#4 Posted : 16 May 2007 09:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By Graham Watson
Hi

Thought this was a great idea. You may find the the local branch of the Institute of Advanced Motorists could help.

They may even be willing to run it for you. I know that in Greenwich the local branch (S.E. London) used to do an annual competition for all its members and associates along the lines you're talking about.

It would be useful addition to their funds I'm sure.

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#5 Posted : 16 May 2007 10:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andrew Joule Land
slightly off the link but :
A new sign in the Bank Lobby reads:


"Please note that this Bank is installing new Drive-through ATM machines enabling customers to withdraw cash without leaving their vehicles.


Customers using this new facility are requested to use the procedures outlined below when accessing their accounts.


After months of careful research, MALE & FEMALE Procedures have been developed. Please follow the Appropriate steps for your gender."

*******************************
MALE PROCEDURE:
1. Drive up to the cash machine.
2. Put down your car window.
3. Insert card into machine and enter PIN.
4. Enter amount of cash required and withdraw.
5. Retrieve card, cash and receipt.
6. Put window up.
7. Drive off.


*******************************


FEMALE PROCEDURE:
Unfortunately, most of this part is the Truth.!!!!


1. Drive up to cash machine.
2. Reverse and back up the required amount to align car window with the machine.
3. put on the handbrake, put the window down.
4. Find handbag, remove all contents on to passenger seat to locate card.
5. Tell person on mobile phone you will call her back and hang up.
6. Attempt to insert card into machine.
7. Open car door to allow easier access to machine due to its excessive distance from the car.
8. Insert card.
9. Re-insert card the right way.
10. Dig through handbag to find diary with your PIN written on the inside back page.
11. Enter PIN.
12. Press cancel and re-enter correct PIN.
13. Enter amount of cash required.
14. Check makeup in rear view mirror.
15. Retrieve cash and receipt.
16. Empty handbag again to locate wallet and place cash inside.
17. Write debit amount in check register and place receipt in back of checkbook.
18. Re-check makeup.
19. Drive forward 2 feet.
20. Reverse back to cash machine.
21. Retrieve card.
22. Re-empty hand bag, locate card holder, and place card into the slot provided!
23. Give dirty look to irate male driver waiting behind you.
24. Restart stalled engine and pull off.
25. Redial person on cell phone.
26. Drive for 2 to 3 miles.
27. Release Parking Brake.

HEHEHEHE !
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#6 Posted : 16 May 2007 11:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert.
Jon P

How much would that cost? Including DAFW!
What exactly would it prove?
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#7 Posted : 16 May 2007 11:30:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sally
Why does it need to 'prove' anything?

It would be fun and it raises awareness of safety in a fun way. I think it sounds a great idea.
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#8 Posted : 16 May 2007 11:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tabs
For it to be an effective tool to safer driving, it needs to correct bad habits, or teach new skills.

So perhaps the competition should be set to that aim? Most of the ideas you have put forward meet that criteria.

I used to teach motorcycling, and we would enter students into various road safety trials around the country with good success.

It was observed riding, and skill tests too.

It does work - the students were proud of their achievements and that pride was taken into their day to day riding too.

Speed perception, space awareness, and hazard spotting are perhaps the valuable ones for your situation?

Hazard spotting can be done with photos or with real life scenery.

Good on you - go for it.
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#9 Posted : 16 May 2007 12:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris G
I remeber a recent documentry series about a london bus company showing an episode about thier safe driving annual competition. This apeared to be viewed by the drivers as highly prestidgeous, and that it was an achievement even to get nominated for the event as they had to demonstrate their safe driving routinely in order to be selected.
IT SEEMED VERY POSITIVE.

Chris G
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#10 Posted : 16 May 2007 12:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman
From my Advanced Drivers course I remember the road commentary as being the most important part. Talk to the examiner. What are you seeing, looking at, preparing for.

Any tests should be based on skill. Not, in anyway, on speed.

An interesting thought (for me at least) Try to get people who have never driven a double decker bus or an artic to reverse it into a defined space.

Merv
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#11 Posted : 16 May 2007 14:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert.
"Safe driving competition"!!!

Isn't that called F1?
They are, after all "at work", look at the benefits the participants reap.
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#12 Posted : 16 May 2007 15:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman
Yeah,

but what are the death benefits ? Are they insurable ?

Merv
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#13 Posted : 16 May 2007 15:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert.
Theres no benefit in dying Merv.

Seriously though I reckon that instead of a "fun" day out, the ORR should be assessed first as it looks at attitude, knowledge, hazard perception, annual mileage driven,vehicle type etc.
It gives the individual a realistic view of how good they think they are.
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#14 Posted : 17 May 2007 19:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jon Paul
Thanks for the responses everyone, sorry it took so long to reply but have had go to to work.

There is much more planning I need to do yet before it comes off the ground but I would like this to become an annual event with some prestige within the company for the winning team.

In my particular industry (rail) they get hammered with safety all of the time and I feel that the risks associated with driving (getting to and from the job safely) can sometimes be overlooked and this is what I would like to highlight as a lot of people have or use company cars,vans and minibuses etc.

I have decided to lose the use of the skid car for the competition and instead might look into Mervs idea of manoeuvring an artic around a course with some reversing, don't know how feasible or even practical that would be yet as well as the other ideas mentioned.

The skid car I will still pursue but more in the format of a training event at each depot for drivers prior to the onset of winter.

Thanks,

John

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#15 Posted : 18 May 2007 13:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Brett Day

I would echo the other posters comments re: IAM, my group (Chelmsford) have been involved in a 'fun' evening with check drives and a bbq afterwards where associates can pick the observers brains over a burger and a drink (non alcoholic of course).
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