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#1 Posted : 17 May 2007 14:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By David c Wilson
Has anyone got a Risk Assessment for company drivers?
Any advice would be most welcome - thank you in anticipation.
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#2 Posted : 18 May 2007 19:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By David c Wilson
Please could someone list the hazards, so i know i have them all covered?
Please.
Thank you in anticipation.
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#3 Posted : 19 May 2007 20:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By Pete48
Dave, I was looking for something similar today and found this in the Irish safety pages. It might help you get some focus?
Good luck

http://www.dft.gov.uk/drivingforwork/
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#4 Posted : 20 May 2007 07:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian P
Do a Google for management of road risk and have a search through what comes up.
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#5 Posted : 20 May 2007 09:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By David c Wilson
Thank you Gents.
I am now up to speed.
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#6 Posted : 22 May 2007 11:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kieran J Duignan
You may be up to speed, David

.... but perhaps you should slow down a little.

To what extent have you taken care to conduct a 'suitable and sufficient' assessment of ergonomics risks as specified in the ACOP of Regulation 4 of PUWER?

This provides a firm basis for a claim of negligence in the event that one of your people suffers back pain which is quite foreseeable if his/her job requires him/her to drive regularly in a car that fails to comply with PUWER.
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#7 Posted : 22 May 2007 12:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kenneth Parker
Dave,

Have sent you an example direct. Please feel free to distribute if you think they are of use.

Ken Parker
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#8 Posted : 22 May 2007 12:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter Leese
Interesting thought Keiran

Could you supply a list of cars that don't meet PUWER? Or, alternatively, could you list those that do?

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#9 Posted : 22 May 2007 12:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kieran J Duignan
Peter

Sadly, your questions reveal elementary failure to understand the nature of ergonomics and/or to read what I actually wrote.

I regret I can't offer a remedy for either failure under than humility and education.
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#10 Posted : 22 May 2007 13:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave West
David, Here's a site that will help you with the ergonmoics side of your assessments.

http://www.drivingergonomics.com/

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#11 Posted : 22 May 2007 14:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter Leese
I take it that's a no then Kieran.

A shame, it would have been good to challenge the car manufacturers who spend millions on customer ergomomics, whose repeat business depends on manufacturing comfortable cars, and who know their stuff inside out.

Still, can't win 'em all.

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#12 Posted : 22 May 2007 16:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Brigham
Hi Kieran,


You said
"To what extent have you taken care to conduct a 'suitable and sufficient' assessment of ergonomics risks as specified in the ACOP of Regulation 4 of PUWER?

This provides a firm basis for a claim of negligence in the event that one of your people suffers back pain which is quite foreseeable if his/her job requires him/her to drive regularly in a car that fails to comply with PUWER."

Can you elaborate on this please?

Ron

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#13 Posted : 23 May 2007 14:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mitch
Let me have your email and I will send you one based on a spreadsheet
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#14 Posted : 23 May 2007 17:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By Brett Day

Another thing to add which the Loughborough Uni site points out is the car, I know of several companies that will spend huge amounts of money on the latest high spec car for a director who maybe drives 5 miles to work each day, yet the driver who does 20-30k miles a year gets a car with no aircon, poor adjustability on seats and little in the way of driver/safety aids.

Likewise some companies will buy cars from one manufacturer so the seats faults/lacks or lack of fit will be common across the range, for example I know of a certain french manufacturer who's cars across the range are a good fit for short - medium drivers, those who are on the tall side can suffer, likewise a certain germanic company has long seats squabs that can dig into the back of the knee in a short driver.

Just my two penneth...
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