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Posted By Kenneth Parker
Colleagues,
Under the Smoke Free Regulations in England, it is my understanding that the employer’s main responsibility is to ensure that no one smokes in enclosed or substantially enclosed areas.
At the Corporation Meeting (on the evening of 24/5/07) one member of the Corporation stated they believed that as a College is a public place, Smoking would not be allowed anywhere in or on the premises.
The College in its wisdom has provided and external open air smoking area to the rear of the premises for all smokers. My question is:
“Can this remain as a smoking area or does smoking have to be banned not only in the premises but also outside areas including the designated smoking area within the College Grounds?”
Many thanks in anticipation.
Ken Parker
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Posted By Ian P
Open air smoking areas are allowed as far as I know. As long as they aren't too close to openings in the building. The smoking restrictions (NB restriction not ban as some of the more vehement anti smoking lobby call it) have been in force in Scotland for about a year now and we went through the same sort of confusion about where people are allowed to smoke but it has all pretty much settled down now. Most places have outside areas, some sheltered some not, but a few places have chosen to ban it from their property completely. That's a matter of choice not legislative requirement.
Can anybody remember the last time new legislation caused such a fuss, if ever.
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Posted By Sarah-Jane Brown
That would be allowed. As it is in the open air and not enclosed or substantially enclosed. The college could make it's own rules about smoking outside but there are be no restrictions under the legislation.
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Posted By Merv Newman
The plant I worked in this week used to have ventilated "smokers rooms". These have now all been ripped out.
If you want to smoke, go outside. if it rains - tough.
Plant medical was moaning about the different reasons for people taking short breaks :
* for the old hands - an alcohol break.
* for the middle aged - a fag break
* for the young - a spliff break
* for the very lucky (age doesn't count) - a love break.
And I still reckon that if anyone takes a 10 minute break (for any reason) then that should be counted as unpaid time, to be made up at the end of the day.
Merv
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Posted By Rob Hughes Be careful here as some of the smoking shelters that have been installed over the last few years do not comply with the new regulations. For a space to be considered open it must be more than 50% open and this cannot include temporary openings such as doors and windows. Normally means it must have at least one wall missing. Check out www.smokefreeengland.co.uk or call 0800 169 1697 for more info.
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