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#1 Posted : 30 May 2007 11:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By anon1234
Can anyone explain why someone would resign because they were being asked to ensure the H&S management system met the requirements of OHSAS 18001?
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#2 Posted : 30 May 2007 11:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By CFT
Perhaps when they were employed part of the JD was to comply with 18001 or have knowledge in, and when push comes to shove they do not. Cant think of any other reason.

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#3 Posted : 30 May 2007 14:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter Leese
Depends on how and why they were asked and by whom.
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#4 Posted : 30 May 2007 14:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By ITK
Obviously not in full posession of the facts but it may be that the system was not satisfactorily implemented by the person who resigned.
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#5 Posted : 30 May 2007 15:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave McCarthy
Obviously there is not enough facts to come to definite conclusion but i suggest the following reasons.

1. Majority of H & S Management Systems in the UK are based on the HSG65 and the transfer to the OHSAS 18001 can prove costly, time consuming, and increased workload, paperwork etc.

2. Normally the change is due to directors looking to bring their health & safety management systems in line with quality management systems thus increasing workload, stress, etc. etc. especially if you are not familiar with the systems, auditing structure, accreditation process.

3. The transfer to the new system may not be percieved to be worthwhile by this person and through discussion with the board he / she may feel that their position within the company is being undermined and therefore has no other option but to keep their integrity and leave.

4. This issue may be one in a long line of issues with the company directors and therefore to continue employment would be fruitless.

I could be completely off the point, but there's only one person who knows the real truth..............
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#6 Posted : 30 May 2007 15:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Shillabeer
My God, what is wrong with 18001 especially if you have ISO9001 look at the correspondance matrix and you will find the requirements are very similar, doing it now. With some minor changes to our processes 85% of the way there. They guy probably felt he did not have the competence to develop the revised system, purhaps his boss was a bit of a demon, who knows why some individuals act this way when there is lots of competent help available on this forum.
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#7 Posted : 30 May 2007 23:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By Barry Cooper
May be he/she thought the company were only going for 18001 for the badge, and thought it not worth the effort or the hassle;

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#8 Posted : 31 May 2007 09:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tabs
Why ask us?

I would suggest they would be better placed to answer you (and if you find out, put us out of our misery).
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#9 Posted : 31 May 2007 12:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By anon1234
Wish it was as simple as just asking them - unfortunately they left a couple of years ago and whilst clearing out some old paperwork from before my time with the company I came across some correspondence that indicated they would resign if 18001 became a business commitment.

I suspect it was because it would have meant them having the manage health and safety propoerly as since I've joined we've been unravelling all sorts of poor practice from a H&S managament perspective - mostly i think because they used to concentrate on what they liked doing rather than what really needed to be put in place to allow the systems to run smoothly
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#10 Posted : 31 May 2007 12:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By holmezy
anon1234,

its seems very odd,,,,,,but I think you just answered your own question there?

We had a similar case where a manager got wind that we were going to "audit" his area, along with a stocktake, and he decided that he didn't want to be part of what we discovered!

jumped before he was pushed,,some might say!!

holmezy
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#11 Posted : 31 May 2007 14:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By anon1234
thanks for all the responses.

holmezy, I think you are right in that I've answered my own question, but I was interested to find out if anyone could think of any really valid objection that would lead someone to resign over it.
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#12 Posted : 31 May 2007 17:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Edward Shyer
anon1234,

Another possibility on this could have been that your predecessor was tasked with the job without having the appropriate training to carry this out.

How many times do we get lumbered with things and the employer wants it place within the week because after all it is only H&S.

As we know that 18001 can take many months to implement and it could have quite easily been peer pressure and time constraints in addition to a possible lack of understanding of the system that made made the person up sticks.

Regards

Ted
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