Posted By patricia topping I have read somewhere that you can obtain a tax disc holder for use for company cars for No Smoking Signs. Can anyone tell me where these can be obtained?

Posted By Paul Durkin Regards company vehicles, is there something in the regs about signs in each compartment? I attended a talk by an enthusiastic barrister who implied that each entrance door to a vehicle should have a no smoking sign,OTT or what ? Regards,Paul

Posted By Paul Durkin Hi Patricia, Depends on what you mean by 'company car,' is it shared?, then signs, if sole use/lease then no. I will give you the name of the barrister !!! Regards, Paul

Posted By PH My company is issuing everyone with no smoking stickers/ signs for their cars. I know that in reality many will not use them (and I don't necessarily blame them, especially the ones who have a car allowance) and wonder how this can be properly enforced. P

Posted By Zaphod I've been issued with one of those tax disc holders from our lease company for my company car - but the only people who drive the car are myself and my wife and we are avid non-smokers. This no-smoking sign thing seems to be getting out of hand. I work for a national organisation that supports people with learning difficulties in small domestic homely environments - in typical houses like yours or mine. For years we have argued against putting up fire signs everywhere - except in buildings where the risks justify them. This approach has been reluctantly accepted by the Fire Service and Commission for Social Care Inspection inspectors. Now suddenly this new legislation comes in on smoking with big threats about fining people for not putting signs up everywhere. There does not seem to be any sense of proportion to the risks and the nature of the environment they are being put up in. I remember the Howletts Zoo case - when a keeper was killed by a tiger. If my memory serves me correctly, the company succeeded in their defence that the Health & Safety at Work act allows for the nature of the business or undertaking. I gather the keepers were expected to have direct contact with the animals because that was what the zoo was all about. I couldn't find confirmation of this exact interpretation but here is a link to a site that summarised the case. http://www.swarb.co.uk/lisc/HltSf19961996.php I would like to use the same argument for not putting up smoking signs - or indeed other safety signs except where they make a significant contribution to reducing risks and that they are appropriate to the business or undertaking. Any thoughts? Or how about the term 'so far as is reasonably practicable' - whatever happened to that. Perhaps someone could clarify - does teh H&SW act have anything to do with the new smoking law?