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Posted By Austin. U
Hi All,
Please could someone tell me the British Standard(s) for paints.
We have some paints imported from China for our company.
Regards,
Austin.
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Posted By Ron Hunter
There are numerous British Standards, but al ot of them tend to relate more to colour and tints as opposed to chemical make-up.
I recall (e.g.) BS381C from my days with the Ministry!(probably long since superseded)
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Posted By Austin. U
Thanks Ron,
Please do you or anyone have a risk assessment done for workers painting erected steel beam at heights.
I would like additions to what we already have.
Thanks,
Austin.
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Posted By Alexander Falconer
BS 831C still springs to my mind, and is still in use
The other was BS 4800
Alex
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Posted By Alexander Falconer
Ooops that should be BS 381C
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Posted By John Cook
Austin
request the MSDS from the manufacturer, with paint from China British standards will probably not be relevant at all.
It may be that you will require to carry out a COSHH assessment on the particular paint you are using, it will all depend upon the make up of the paint itself, is sit water based or oil based, high VOCs or not and so on.
You will need to look at the method of application as this will have an impact on your assessment as brushing will provide different effects from spraying etc.
Are there any confined spaces involved where fumes could build up?
Realise that this is not exactly what you are looking for but these are some of the issues I would be looking at.
John
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Posted By Ron Hunter
Austin,
Steelwork on a new build should preferably arrive pre-painted on site.
For maintenance work, much depends on the size and shape of the structure and the amount of surface preparation required.
In the UK we have a heirarchy of controls to apply as explained in our Work at Height Regulations - see the HSE website under this topic.
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Posted By Austin. U
Thanks for all your contributions so far.
Still on this paint issue,the company in China is not providing a Material Safety Data Sheet but a sheet of paper pasted on the gallons, states that it conforms to BS 476 Part 21:1987.
Now, it is being suggested by one of the managers that information should be extracted from British manufacturers and used relatively.
Am not in support of this but the managers are saying it is reasonably practicable.
Please anyone aware of such practise or regs. to support this argument?
Best Regards,
Austin.
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
Ashton
Whilst they have cited potentially a correct BS the wrong part is cited. Off the top of my head it should be parts 6 and 7. This standard is to do with fire resistance and these parts concern such as spread of flame and propogation. They are therefore not specific to all paints, but rather those applied to steel for fire protection.
I cannot see where your managers are intending to go on this. But please be aware that you need to verify the BS statement on the can as this may or may not be accurate.
Bob
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Posted By Jay Joshi
The British Standard quoted has nothing to do with CHIP regulations that require "Suppliers" to provide MSDS's and label their products accordingly.
The standard is for specification for fire safety performance
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Posted By Mike Draper
I'm guessing that the reference to BS 476 Pt 21 relates to the fact that this is an intumescent coating. BS 476 is a performance specification for the applied coating and has nothing to do with the hazards associated with its application.
Reference could be made to BS EN ISO 12944-1 which deals with application of paint systems except that this makes no constructive contribution to a health and safety discussion (it says comply with the relevant law).
Your supplier must provide an MSDS of some description. This is a requirement under CHIP and non-negotiable. Don't pay for the paint until you have it.
As has been said, when REACH comes fully up to speed then this will be much clearer and you should not only get an MSDS but some guidance on precautions in typical use.
Once you have the MSDS, then you can fall back on COSHH essentials to evaluate how best to protect the workers. COSHH essentials can be picked up off the HSE website.
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Posted By Simon Shaw
I believe that it is the responsibility of the Importer of the paint to produce an MSDS; if you are importing the paint yourself then it is for your company to do.
If another Company is importing it then you need to speak to them. If they are importing it on your behalf then you may find it is still your responsibility to produce the MSDS.
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