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Posted By Richie H
Hi,
There are many threads on this site about what study route to take to further develop the competence / qualifications or portfolio / cv. My question (some might see as a rant) is this.....
Is it all worth it or is it a very clever marketing ploy by the Safety Institutes and Training providers out there to make us believe we need it - and we do if we have to maintain / improve our professional status.
Yet these courses, e.g. a general Diploma (NEBOSH / BSC) cost approx 5 to 6 thousand pounds for taught. Then we want to go the next level, is it another diploma or MSc.... one thing for sure its generally another 5 or so thousand pounds and a good few years hard slog!
I dont disagree we need to continually develop and i advocate that, but do other professions / industires realise the time and effort and financial costs many of us invest into our development to become or maintain our professional memberships?
Do the current salaries offered reflect the investment made by members of this profession? I'm sure there are consultants and training providers out there screaming yes of course they do....
Just a thought.....
Richie
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Posted By Raymond Rapp
Richie
Some valid points, and yes, these have been discussed on numerous occasions. The cost of h&s qualifications and training is very high and no doubt many providers are doing very nicely out of it, thank you.
Whether it is good value for money is a matter of conjecture. Achievement and satisfaction cannot always be measured in monetary terms. The future - who knows. However, I doubt our industry will achieve the kudos of other professional and chartered roles for some time yet. Alas neither the salary.
Despite the above I do not regret the career path I have chose, bloody frustrating at times, but one day my 'ship might come in'.
Good luck.
Ray
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Posted By Richie H
Ray,
Very nicely put indeed. I too dont regret the career path i have chosen even with the frustrations.... and strongly believe i can do some good too along the way!
Lets hope both our ships come in one day.
Good luck
RIchie
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Posted By Merv Newman
Qualifications ? Don't have any. Never done a "safety" exam in my life.
However I have 30 years in the trade and 18 years as a consultant. And I'm up to my left eyebrow in work. (the right one is raised sardonically)
You just have to be able to persuade your client or employer that safety is a necessity. Then guide them on to the right path.
Helps if you can waffle a bit about current legislation.
I'm seriously thinking about not replying to the CPD this year and thus giving up my "chartered" status. Which has never brought me in a penny.
Very, very few people to whom I have offered my business card have ever asked for an explanation of CMIOSH, CSP. And none have really understood the significance. If there is any.
Maybe if you are looking for a job and they specify NEBOSH or whatever then it will make a difference. Even then, I reckon that previous experience will count
Merv (weetabix time)
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Posted By Bruce Sutherland
Richie
I notice the difference between the "depth" of knowledge between people who have things like the Nebosh dip and NVQ - doesn't make one a better or worse practitioner necessarily but I think the more widely educated one is the better you are able to take on the role.
Merv looking at all the tender opportunities there are for H and S in France no wonder you are busy - sometimes I think an insurance driven system would be e really good idea.
Cheers
Bruce
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