Posted By Paul L Williams First I was a Safety Advisor over one site, there was a Environmental Officer and Quality Manager. Then redundancies came and the Environmental Officer went. I was then asked to take on Environmental 14001 responsibilities as well. A merger then happened and I was made responsible for two sites. Then one site was re-located to the far east so I now have responsibilities for an Asian site instead, visiting twice a year. Don't get me wrong my salary has increased with the changes and the company I work for has funded my professional development, I am now 37 and a Chartered H&S Practitioner and an Associate Member of IEMA. So to cut a long story short the Quality Manager has now left and a job vacancy has appeared on the notice board for a new one, however the MD came to see me and asked me if I would consider taking on this role as well as 18001 & 14001, because 19001 is just another management system to bolt on. So are there any other QHS&E Managers out there. What would you do?? go for it or not?? obviously there would be a good pay rise for me but the company would save the cost of a full time Quality Manager.

Posted By CFT Paul As do many companies. You must be proficient at your job otherwise you wouldn't have been asked. If you like the idea, negotiate a decent salary, identify what areas you need further input in and go for it. good luck CFT

Posted By Crim Way back in 1990 I left the fire service and bacame fire prevention officer at a large manufacturing facility with a 30 person fire brigade. 1 year later the safety engineer left and I was handed that responsibility as well - "fire and safety manager". (just in time to introduce the 6 pack). Then they got rid of the security chief and I was then "Administrator of Fire, Health, Safety and Security" with 9 security officers under me. Good pay rises came with the added roles, however I did find the extra work load difficult. They then introduced a voluntary redundancy scheme and I was made a good offer so I went. All my responsibilities then went to pipe fitter from the maintenance department. That all happened within 4 years.

Posted By Jim Masson I was the opposite track from yourself! Started with Quality, then added Environment (my main field) and have only just added H & S. Most of my dealings are with people who combine all three roles. We're about to integrate our Management Systems as well.

Posted By Davelfc Paul, I am currently in a role where I provide the QSHE, SHEQ what ever they wish to call it. I came in to implement 18&14001 and then they decided they would go for 9001. part systems in place but not that good to start with, needed a total overhaul. I am also the Training manager and responsible person for fire. what I find is I am diluted to point I am not effective at all, I have made many improvements to our systems, but really do have to prioritise, on risk based approach. Safety comes an obvious massive first, followed by Training and competencies within the organisation these take a huge amount of my time, and as Merv said spare time (family - spare time used for work = :-( ) Then fire takes less time but is very important. 14001 & 9001 are improving but to my cost? be careful the main thing I would advise you do and wish I had the foresight that hindsight has given me. Is as: CFT eluded to, look at your systems where they are what short and long term improvements you need to make, assess where the quality is now! where it needs to go, and the requirement. Put some action plans together with realistic time scales and see if you are capable and prepared to take it on. IMS and size of organisation are considerations you need to have good systems understood by all (training) you need to audit & review and make changes (training and information) implement etc. are you just managing the systems or are you also doing the operational and strategic safety etc. Do you understand all your companies process. Good luck be prepared for the curved balls If you do take on more than you can chew get an assistant if it is an option if its not you will probably move at some stage?? My belief is all three systems cannot effectively be managed by one person unless the organisation has provision of a team capability, with a team approach and you certainly need a committee to continually review. I have good backing a good understanding, but I am impatient to achieve more. again good luck with which ever way you chose but go in eyes wide open as opposed to eyes wide shut Dave

Posted By David Balkwell Hello Paul Go for it Paul - Quality is the easy one !!!! (that'll touch a few nerves) If you are familiar with Environment and Health & Safety Systems then Quality you will find just as easy or just as complicated ie they are all disciplines in their own right Most people evolve of course from quality to EMS and H&S so many of the base system principles are second nature I am quite happy to point you in the direction of quality (and Integrated Systems) support if you email me on davidbalkwell@mobileemail.vodafone.net Dont forget PAS99 too although its not the best document there is some guidance there of use Best of luck David