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Posted By Paul Oliver So what do people think about having 196 less fron line HSE inpsectors in 2007 than in 2003.
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Posted By Shane J Has there been any significant changes in legislation, shifting repsonsibilty to other parties?
For example in the area of construction in Ireland under the new construction regulations Project Supervisors for design and construction stages have now the authority to give direction to contractors to make improvements on site, much the same as the HSA inspector would do and seeing failure to comply with this "improvement notice" make an official report to the Authority in which case legal action could be taken.
Is it possible that the government are encouraging industries to regulate themselves through clever legislative measures, thus removing the need for Inspector positions that they are having trouble filling because a HSE/A inspectors position is not one of the most highly paid H&S positions that are available in Ireland or Britain ?
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Posted By db Twas my old job... but the money wasnt why I changed. In Britain at least it's not one of the lowest paid H&S jobs! Not sure about Ireland. Scanning the iosh jobs pages it's well above average.
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Posted By Jonathan Sandler CMIOSH Maybe the 196 less inspectors are still there. The title might have changed, from enforcement inspectors to something else? Just a thought.
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Posted By steven bentham What reduction has there been in the number of HQ Inspectors or in other Policy functions?
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Posted By Rakesh Maharaj It strikes me that having to fight for retaining health and safety policing in a developed country is in itself a paradox. Clearly UK plc is not as sophisticated (and educated) as we think it is if its commitment to the well being of its work force has to be continually enforced by a government agency!
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Posted By Max Bancroft Just a thought - IOSH membership has grown hugely over the last 15 years and in the last couple of years Chartered Safety and Health Practitioners have arrived on the scene.
Perhaps the Government thinks that with all of us about all over the place, there is less need for front line inspecting since we are beavering away educating bosses and workforce as to the importance of H&S, monitoring, inspecting etc.
Maybe the HSE will now target workplaces where there is no H&S advisor sure in the knowledge that we are doing our job in the areas where we are employed.
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Posted By John Murgatroyd Oh please ! "educating bosses" The reason the HS inspectors have been "lessened" is so that there will be less enforcement. Enforcement will now be solely by investigation of deaths and injuries. Much less expensive for those companies that don't report anything that happens. Mind you, I have noticed that the local authorities seem to be interested in obtaining a slice of the action, but what the heck ! Large amounts of lobbying of mps by companies and their bosses, large amounts of sarcastic stories in the press about "elf 'n save-tea" are bound to have some effect....and now "Irn_Bruwn" has instituted a panel of "industry experts" to advise him of ways to enhance the profitability of English companies...like Digby Jones...ex-CBI....and Sir Alan Michael Sugar.... I don't see much interest in elves there....especially as Mr Brown is not that interested in either safety or industry.
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Posted By Max Bancroft John - I think that is a bit too cynical (even for me). You mention underreporting or even non-reporting of accidents. I assume that in a company that has a H&S Officer/Advisor who is a member of IOSH that accidents under RIDDOR would be reported and reported timeously - we have all subscribed to a Code of Conduct and I assume (can I?) that we try and keep to it.
Perhaps a research project for somebody to compare accident reporting levels between companies with H&S Officers & those without. I believe the anecdotal evidence is that SMEs (which are the ones mostly likely not to have a H&S Officer) are the ones that don't report - especially 3+ days LTAs.
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