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#1 Posted : 10 July 2007 09:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stu Haysman We have been offered the opportunity by a neighbouring company to utilise their existing defibrillator service. It's anticipated that they could reach a casualty on our site within five minutes (paramedic response time for our area is ten minutes). So, at first glance this seems like a good idea, but I'm concerned about the legal implications of allowing a non-employee, who is also not a trained paramedic or doctor to treat an employee. Does anyone have any experience of similar arrangements or any advice to offer? Aside from obtaining proof of liability insurance, records of training and defibrillator servicing, is there anything else I should be asking for? Many thanks
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#2 Posted : 10 July 2007 09:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve Derby Assuming by defibrillator you mean AED, I would not see it as an issue, given the checks you have already suggested. Almost anyone can be trained to use an AED you don't need to be a skilled Paramedic or Doctor. Just one point, getting an AED quickly to a person in cardiac arrest will certainly increase their chances of survival, but a first aider with an AED is no substitute for a Paramedic, who can administer drugs and carry out additional life support skills, make sure you get the emergency services on the way without delay if you ever have such an emergency Steve
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#3 Posted : 10 July 2007 09:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merlin If you contact your local Ambulance service they will put you in touch with the First Responder Group in your area who will arrange professional training in the correct use of these and what to do in a response to a cardiac emergency The fist 5 minutes is vital, I recommend all companies take on board the isea of the First Responder Group
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#4 Posted : 10 July 2007 09:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merlin Should say “Idea” Also contact your local health plan company i.e. Westfield they too give advice on these As for insurance this is dependant on who you are with, I have found no problem, I have installed 3 AEDs on three sites that I have worked with in the last 4 years and had trained over 50 persons in the use and response
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#5 Posted : 10 July 2007 09:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Phil Hi all, Depending on your local Ambulance services protocols, FR's arent usually allowed to attend industrial sites, however if you are in an office environment it would be fine. Early defibrillation is the ONLY proven intervention for cardiac arrest. Advanced life support including drugs etc have been shown through research to have no significant increase in good outcomes for cardiac arrest. Good CPR is also very important to maintain a shockable rythym for when a defib arrives, so a half day BLS course wouldnt do any harm either Phil
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#6 Posted : 10 July 2007 21:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Taylor It's a good idea if they are also a first-aider (or you have your own present) as the casualty may need more than the AED.
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#7 Posted : 11 July 2007 07:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Youel I urge you to speak to your insurance company
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#8 Posted : 11 July 2007 10:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By RoseR Hi Stu This web site is excellent, and will be able to competently answer all your queries about training, insurance and liability. It's the Resuscitation Council who are responsible for setting guidelines and protocols for resuscitation procedures. www.resus.org.uk
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#9 Posted : 11 July 2007 11:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stu Haysman Many thanks to all for some good advice Stu Haysman
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